Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Why only medical graduates? Does it cost more to educate a nurse than an engineer? A good proportion of a nurses training is spent working for nothing or minimum wage. Doctors can pay over €60K for their education along with working long hours during training.

Nurses and doctors leave for better working conditions. Fix those and more will stay.

On the the way home from work on the Luas inspectors checking tickets I seen a woman across from me show them her passport a blue one. I looked it up Ukrainian. So that's free travel they get as well I assume. Wonder what else they show that passport for.

Brought my kids up to the petting zoo during the week and a group of Ukrainians were there, one got in an argument with the owner saying they were from the ukraine and can't afford tickets. He told her he's running a business and they need to pay like everyone else, so they left. Day trips like that are a rare luxury nowadays, it must be lovely to live in a bubble walking around demanding free everything

I know local gossip is usually to be taken with a pinch of salt but anyone we talk to around town is doing nothing but complaining about them, which is some comparison to a few months ago where everyone was bending over backwards to help, a woman I know tried a donation drive last week and got no replies, with their free meals and rent free why do they need donations?

I'm sure like anywhere there are lovely people and horrible people, we got a group that won't speak to locals at all and a group of alcoholics but there's lots of kids with them so I would have sympathy. But it's a difficult time when I have two teens soon facing college with no idea what their futures might bring, and our landlord decided he wants to raise the rent again and telling us to be careful not to fall out with him over it or he will have to kick us out, and the refugees are cushy up the road in a holiday village with free everything and a government wanting to give them own door accommodation?

This is probably an off-topic, but there was an article in Indo recently about renters and older renters in particular https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/chances-are-i-wont-come-back-to-ireland-man-forced-to-emigrate-to-portugal-as-housing-crisis-hits-older-renters-41819090.html

Chaps a bit of a Walter mitty type, was on the live line and more holes in his story than Swiss cheese. That said he did raise the crisis in the rental market , availability and cost .

I know from a friend who works in Dublin Bus, if you show a Ukrainian passport, there is no charge on public transport anywhere in the country. No need for a social welfare pass

Not sure about Free Travel being offered beyond initial arrival but am aware a free private bus service has been in operation from local village , three days a week and is NOT being paid for by either Host or Ukrainians , its been funded through Department of Transport, I'm also aware locals enquired could they avail of the service and were told, bluntly, NO.

From citizens info, updated , June 2022.

Transport

You can get free travel on any subsidised public transport service, (Irish rail, Bus Eireann, Go-Ahead Ireland, Dublin Bus and Luas) upon arrival into Ireland for the journey to your final destination. Local link services are also included.

You should show:

• Your Ukrainian passport, or other government issued Ukranian ID, and proof that you have arrived in Ireland in the past 7 days, or
• Confirmation of status from a co-ordinating group or charity involved in the Ukrainian crisis
• 
  
• https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/ukrainian_refugees_in_ireland/supports_for_ukrainians_in_ireland.html

Intriguingly, no such page dedicated to other Refugees.

No inspector or security checking tickets are going to question the passport thing there's nothing to gain from them questioning it. Your one just flashed it at him and that was that he didn't even pause to think. She wasn't just on her way into the country either judging by her bags unless they have an Avoca in Ukraine!

The other day an African woman with a few suitcases sat next to me again on the Luas while I was on the way to work. She was questioned over not tagging on her leap card correctly at Belgard she barely spoke any English but she roughly explained she wasn't long in the country. So it's only the Ukrainians getting the special treatment in these situations.

The Ukrainian woman I mentioned above was with another girl. I heard them talking to another younger Ukrainian fella when we all had to get off at the Red Cow. They were wondering why the Luas had stopped to change over there and where they were going next she said something to him about ''you can show them this'' he said oh you will have to show me how you do this etc. They know what there ''entitled to'' there's no ignorance or innocence there well tuned in on what is available for him here.

Without getting into a political debate , plenty of threads dedicated to that .

But at a basic economic level , regardless of Political persautions folks might be, this Carry on is completely unsustainable, Financially, Economically and from a Social cohesion point of view.

The Virtue Signalling nonsense is slowly being exposed for what it is and as the Housing crisis, cost of living crisis and additional pressures on services continues to worsen, Government will have no option to pause wether they like it or not.

As for whomever takes over this mess after the Next GE , regardless of their policies , their hands will be tied. Next weeks MONC vote, is essentially grandstanding, likely not to succeed but it will achieve one thing , a focus on the Governments ineptitude and extraordinary policies to please as many people as possible that are not infact Citizens of this state, or for that matter citizens of the EU nor the people who elect these people.

No right thinking person could have objected to some reasonable level of support , Capped numbers , directed financial supports in a far more efficient way, we are essentially being bled dry by this crisis, which incidently and despite all the grandstanding , sanctions and Virtue signalling has achieved nothing but economic melt down of EU Member States who've adhered to the worst ever EU legislation/Directive in its history. Its the helpful breakdowns and stats by posters , regarding what other EU members pay to Ukrainian refugees and supports offered that really puts into perspective the absurdity of what's going on in Ireland.

Folks would probably be far more understanding if they saw fairness and equality but what is going on is simply outrageous. I do not blame Ukrainian refugees, they are guided by what this government offers , yes there's abuses and liberties taken, but isn't it any wonder when our government actively encourages it.

If people are experiencing hardship now wether it be inflation, cost of living, Cost of Fuel , those working , pensioners or those on SW ,may baton down the hatches ahead of October, we've seen nothing yet unless common sense prevails .

That really highlights the dual standards and utter contempt the Irish government hold us in- this time last year they were busy creating a two tier society and ostracising anyone that dared question this vaccine- a year on that mania has been forgotten and not a word about it - bending the taxpayer over backwards for a cohort that 1. Isn’t vaccinated and 2. Never contributed a red cent to our exchequer- this is one seriously fcuked scenario and speaks volumes in itself