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Solar PV Hints, Tips & Troubleshooting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭connesha


    And is it definitely discharging? I noticed when on FeedInPriority mode, it would continue reporting a battery discharge of approx 280w (after a higher load had come an gone), but it didnt seem to really discharge the battery; an hour later the SOC was the same (it should have been 5 or 6% lower at that constant rate). So I wasn't really worried about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭silver_sky


    Yep, it's actually discharging - SOC is reducing. It starts once the battery hits 100%. Showing on app and inverter screen. Solis confirmed it's an issue and being investigated. It was already reported so they just added mine to the list.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭reklamos


    You have 32. I had problem with 25 and had to downgrade to 22.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Wasn't sure where to put this .. but seen the headline and thought to run some figures on it.


    Thought they were exaggerating the savings. But it's not too far from the truth.

    My assumptions, 6 x 400w in a south aspect, will generate roughly 1980kwh in a year (a rough estimate of 800kwh/ kwp)

    Dividing 380 by 1980 gives 19c/ unit

    Which isn't too far off the mark for payback. Still a bit optimistic but not stupidly out.

    Although as the number of panels go up, the self use % will go down.

    Although the costings of eddi etc will depend on your heat source be it gas /oil

    With gas pushing 10c/kwh now and oil at 1.50 (roughly 15c/kwh)

    The more solar going in(at reasonable prices!) The better



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭DC999


    That's class. I googled it and story is on RTE and elsewhere. More uptake should in theory help the case for a decent FIT to incentives people to leap in.

    Report came from UCC and I just found and article about their own solar journey.

    Solar can provide houses with a chunk of power for a lot of the year. But still challenges to scale for much larger setups. I assume UCC is the size of a midsize town center (never seen it). They reckon 1500 panels would give them only 3% of their yearly power consumption. At moment they have 0.5% production: https://www.ucc.ie/en/greencampus/news/pv-installations-across-ucc.html

    Still, people getting used to seeing solar can only help people see the benefits



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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    And panels now are 300-400+ w (but they are bigger than the 200w ones originally installed!)

    UCC is bound to have a huge power use. Every panel they put up, means power they don't have to buy! No worries about export!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA


    So multiply the panels by 33.3333333333333333333 and they have their 100% 🤣

    (ignoring night time and winter ofc)



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,814 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Go big or go home, I put in 410 panels in 2020 and 455 panels this year, basically the same size



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    is mixing an issue on a string? or do they all have to match? I have 10 + 9 on East West strings. Room for 5 more to reach 24 total. At some point the exact same model wont be possible to get i imagine...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,444 ✭✭✭championc


    Production based on the lowest common denominator (so lowest panel wattage)



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,814 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭bullit_dodger


    There could also be some complications if the internal resistances are different and/or how the panels behave with varying temperatures. e.g. your original panels might behave a certain way at 40C while the new panels behave differently at the same temp. I'm speculating a little there, but I would think thats a fair assumption

    Best bet is to shuffle the panels around and have all the same on the same string, alternatively you can get optimizers (€50-60 a panel) to effectively isolate the new ones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    Cheers. I was thinking it might not be straightforward. I'm OK for now, one less in the house wfh has reduced my base load a good bit, so might leave it another year and see how well I do with existing 19. I guess I could sell one string and ugrade 12 if I wanted to max out...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,888 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Any Solis experts here?


    Connected the new inverter yesterday and all seemed well. Then everything went nuts.


    Solis Cloud app can't find the new inverter at all. The WiFi logger is still showing as active, but there is no online inverter.

    Screenshot_20220705-202920_SolisCloud.jpg Screenshot_20220706-083702_SolisCloud.jpg


    Solis Home and Solarman apps show both the logger and the inverter so they're fine.

    Screenshot_20220706-083548_Solis Home.jpg Screenshot_20220706-083605_Solis Home.jpg


    Well only kinda fine, they're both reporting that I imported 595.6kWh yesterday and again today, and that I exported 213.6 both days.

    Screenshot_20220706-083642_Solis Home.jpg Screenshot_20220706-083631_Solis Home.jpg


    Installer said he'd come back if needed, but it seems like something just needs adjusted or reset on the system so I was hoping I could resolve it. Going to contact Solis today but I know they're not known for being very helpful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭chuck eastwood




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,798 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Not sure if this is the right forum for this question but I'm trying to get my head around the new Micro Generation Support Scheme.

    My understanding is that one of the things you need to do to avail of this is submit a NC6 form to ESBN.

    The NC6 From asks "Does interface have type test certification as per Conditions Governing the Connection and Operation of Microgeneration - DTIS-230206-BRL?"

    The checklist at the end of the form asks that you attach "Type Test Certificate for Microgenerator Interface as per I.S. EN 50549-1"

    Does anyone know are these the same form and how do you go about getting this form/forms?



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    The NC6 form is usually done by your solar installer, and it's meant to go in before any solar is installed.

    And it's one of the required forms for the grant too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,798 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    I didn't qualify for the grant as my house is a post 2012 build.

    The NC6 form itself looks easy enough to fill in - it is the "Type Test Certificates" that are to accompany the form which I'm having trouble with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,444 ✭✭✭championc


    You need the IE specific certification cert for your inverter. You'll get them on the midsummer.ie website beside product downloads with each product



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭bullit_dodger


    Just to "roll it back" a sec......you mention you don't qualify for the grant as your house is a post 2012 build. Which grant is this? Just want to make sure your working on the right foundations...(facehugger)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭silver_sky


    Installer came back and sorted my backup not working earlier. Working well now so I'm happy at that. Its a full switchover switch. 🙂

    Still have my discharging issue but it's a solis bug. Hope they sort it out soon.



  • Moderators Posts: 12,419 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Are there any "no no"s about where your inverter and batteries can be located?

    Thinking about where things could live in our house, and our attic is converted so that option is pretty much out. We don't have a utility, so that option doesn't exist. And while we have a shed (small), the best location I can think of is beside our gas boiler, so i'm really asking can you locate your solar inverter and batteries beside a gas boiler?



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    I dont think so, But I know the solis needs to have 300? mm free space in all directions.. And theres a decent whirr of it when charging/discharging the batteries at full speed. Convinced theres a fan in there.

    How much space do you have beside the boiler?



  • Moderators Posts: 12,419 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Probably only a metres width. Doubt that's enough given the 30cm in each direction. Space is at a premium pretty much everywhere in the house (even the fuse board - mentioned when I got the car charger installed), so I'm trying to find options.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    Mine is in a corner near a door. It is flush with the corner - so its not 30cm all around. As long as its not wedged between say the boiler on one side, and the fuseboard or say an appliance on the other - it will be fine.

    Are you getting an installer? They will find a way...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,798 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    When I was getting the solar PV system installed (Jan of this year) there was an SEAI grant available but your house had to have been built in 2011 or before and there was also something about the BER rating having to be a C or below I think - neither of these criteria applied to me at the time.

    I just had a look at the SEAI website and the grand conditions seem to have changed and it's now saying if your house was constructed before 2021 you can apply.

    Can I backdate my application for this grant I wonder?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,444 ✭✭✭championc


    Well they don't come out to check that nothing is there before you start, so your installer could let on he's only doing the install now, although I don't know if any invoices need to be included with the paperwork



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    If it's been put in by someone eg not diy the NC6 form is likely to be submitted already. Its an esbn requirement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,798 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Not a DIY Job no - It was the Northern Ireland Contractors who get mentioned a bit on this forum.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭bullit_dodger


    That was my point, that the timeline criteria requirements had changed for the grant from pre-2011 to now pre-2021. I still have issues with it being "pre-anything", but at least they are increasing the net to allow additional people (like yourself) to take advantage of it.

    Sadly I didn't realize that you already had your installation in place. Sorry.

    Not sure you can avail, but you know I'd give SEAI a call/email and see what they say. Worst they can do is say outright "no", but generally they have a bucket of grant money and they actually WANT people to use it.



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