Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

What would you expect to be done? I'd say that a lot of any physical wealth and assets they might have had has been blown to smithereens. You say yourself that their average monthly wage is 280. If any of them on the average wage had somehow managed to save half of their gross income every month, a year of their savings wouldn't pay for a months rent here.

Fire ahead an book your holiday. You won't get the same level of security detail as a visiting dignitary, but sure if you think it's grand then you could pick up a great deal.

Oh dear. To give you the account of those three weeks, I would have to write a book that you wouldn’t be able to read without a very big bottle of something strong to hand ;) My idea of being invited to stay in someone’s house is that I’m trying not to be in their way and adjust to their way of living. In this case I was nearly expected to move out of the house (after all, why do you need silence when you’re working from home and how dare you work in general, and not be at our beckoning call at all times) and cater to all their demands. I was unable to make us food because granny was always in the kitchen cooking 10 soups a day for the kid (because the kid must eat freshly cooked) and when I finally was able to get to the hob and clean it (as it was always filthy from fat, over boiled soup and what not), she was already at my back, because she needs to cook NOW. And leave even more cleaning for me. They have arrived with a nasty rotavirus infection, which they were not bothered to tell us about, because who cares if we get infected. But when we did get it from them, there was lamenting that we are sick and THEY will get it again and die. How we were feeling didn’t matter, it was always all about them. And that’s just a small bit of what was going on.

How confident are you that there won't be any military action there in the near future? Do you think that anyone should have left it, even at the start when the Russians were trying to steamroll down to it? I mean they never really managed to get substantial presence into the city. Perhaps the Ukrainians should focus on shifting and rehousing their citizens one town over at a time? Like two weeks ago when they were still fighting in Severodonetsk they should have instead focused on resettling their citizens into Lysychansk. And then this week when the Russians pushed them out of there, they could have spent some time rehousing them all in the next town over rather than prioritizing fighting the Russians

You are being a tad dramatic and disingenuous. Nobody here is taking anything away from them… they didn’t have access to education in the first place here so how can it be taken away ?

taxpayers simply don’t want overcrowded classrooms, leading to poorer quality learning for our young citizens…every credible expert led study worldwide equates smaller classes with higher quality learning and higher achievement amongst students.

that will now be eroded and lost to the children of Irish taxpayers…just because…trouble in the Ukraine.

Honestly, not interested, care less , done with all the Virtue Signalling, focusing on things of a little more concern closer to home

It's much easier for the West to help the Ukrainians fight the Russians at this stage than it would be to sit back and allow Ukraine to fall and then have to fight Russia directly. Nothing to do with virtue signalling or any other buzzword crap. If/when Ukraine falls, then things will move a little "closer to home" for you.

The EU has taken in a few million of their women and kids. That means they remaining Ukrainians don't have to be spending resources trying to take care of them over there. Whenever you see fighting taking place at an interface, and there are still random citizens floating about, you have to think "what fu^king eejits". They are in the way of their own side and causing them a lot of hassle.

A quick google will show you that their banks are fine with all recommendations on how to lodge, withdraw and access cash at home and abroad. I get the cost of living is cheaper but surely they support themselves in some way at home?

It's not a third world country where people are starving, plenty of people were working just like here, anything from hospitality to a neurosurgeon like most countries.

Surely they are like us and everywhere else, they get paid, they pay bills, they SAVE. Some earn **** money ,some earn great money.

But we are giving them everything like nobody has ever had a cent in their life???

I find it hard to believe that the 40,000 people here have nothing and can't support themselves in some way.

Fair point. Touché

Ive seen several families here in Kilkenny (some in quite flashy cars) as I live near the host hotel- ALL the men I’ve seen driving the cars (and it’s only men) are fighting age (30,40s), well dressed - certainly no sign of war destitution. They must think all Their Christmases have come at once coming to these holiday camp.

It’s the men of this age that did it in for me- was very pro Ukrainian until i realised the scam we’d been sold. Women and children yes. These lot? No effin way