General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

Kiith · 04-07-2022 06:01PM

Another one it seems.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/07/04/exclusive-premier-league-star-arrested-suspicion-rape/

Xander10 · 04-07-2022 06:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119290291#Comment_119290291

Yep , I've seen the name floating around but not posting here.

Suppose innocent until proven otherwise.

Widdensushi · 04-07-2022 06:33PM

Can't delete

Xander10 · 04-07-2022 06:39PM

ww

04-07-2022 07:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119290359#Comment_119290359

I've seen 4 different names from a cursory search so I still haven't a scooby. 😅 Some absolute trolls throwing out names that don't quite match up with "internationally famous footballer" or the age.

doc_17 · 05-07-2022 08:22AM

It will be interesting to see the impact that Eriksen’s signing has on Fernandes and where he’ll play?

Fattybojangles · 05-07-2022 09:15AM

Over 40,000 in the online queue for tickets for Newcastle's pre season friendlies this morning the sleeping giant is waking up.

05-07-2022 09:29AM

Ronaldos place on the summer tour now in question. The club don't know when he'll be back.

Fattybojangles · 05-07-2022 09:43AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119292213#Comment_119292213

Terrible behaviour from the "ultimate pro" I can't help but snigger at all the grown men who went out and got Ronaldo 7 Jerseys last year.

TitianGerm · 05-07-2022 09:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119292288#Comment_119292288

Did you snigger at all the Newcastle fans wearing tea towels on their heads last year when the takeover completed?

jacool · 05-07-2022 10:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119290359#Comment_119290359

Yes. Some tool in England who defended Greenwood's right to anonymity did a "name and shame" yesterday but got buried as a hypocrite. The player he named is actually in another country currently as part of a pre-season tour with his club.

Fattybojangles · 05-07-2022 10:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119292337#Comment_119292337

Yes that was embarrassing behaviour as well but more than one thing can be embarrassing you know.

doc_17 · 05-07-2022 11:18AM

For someone who says he loves Man U so much, he has a habit of wanting to leave it.

El Gato De Negocios · 05-07-2022 12:29PM

Ronaldo loves many things however he loves nothing more (at least from a sporting perspective) than himself and his brand, that's always been paramount and part of why he has reached the highest echelons of the game that he has.

ShamoBuc · 05-07-2022 12:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119292739#Comment_119292739

He really should be gone at this stage. Whatever issue he has, pre-season training has begun and it is not good for the club not to know whether their top scorer and idol of a generation is going to be there or not.

I think it would be better for United if he does in fact go. They really are at a croosroads and I don't think Ronaldo seems himself as part of the setup for the future. Maybe he simply wants to know what other clubs would take him. Would PSG take the chance? Messi, Neymar, Mbappe and Ronaldo together for a year? New manager comes in and signs Ronaldo straight away would be a PSG kind of thing to do. Couldn't see him fitting in there but you never know.

United's formation and who plays where will be interesting if he does in fact go. Not sure they will get in a first team starter so a juggling of positions might actually revitalise the likes of Bruno, Sancho and Rashford. Those 3 in particular, if they got a new lease of life, could make a real difference if they got back to playing the kind of ball they are capable of.

ShamoBuc · 05-07-2022 08:25PM

Feedback thread opened.....

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058253225/soccer-forum-feedback-2022

El Gato De Negocios · 05-07-2022 09:21PM

Mainz fans calling for the friendly against Newcastle to be ditched because of the abhorrent human rights offences committed by Saudi Arabia. We've seen some Newcastle fans saying fans of PL clubs expressing similar revulsion at the SA regime are just worried about NU "breaking up the big boys party" so what's the problem that Mainz have considering NU has no bearing on their footballing position whatsoever?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d94b0664-fc58-11ec-ab20-2fd534744dd7?shareToken=138e95968445297b3ed03f4e1a9638c5

Fattybojangles · 06-07-2022 09:45AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119295961#Comment_119295961

Some Mainz fans not all as your comment suggests and German football fandom has always had a political element to it. I'm sure there will be plenty of Mainz fans at the match.

El Gato De Negocios · 06-07-2022 09:47AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297283#Comment_119297283

Ok so, I'll rephrase. We've seen some Newcastle fans saying fans of PL clubs expressing similar revulsion at the SA regime are just worried about NU "breaking up the big boys party" so what's the problem that those group of Mainz fans have considering NU has no bearing on their footballing position whatsoever?

Fattybojangles · 06-07-2022 11:06AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297298#Comment_119297298

I presume those Mainz fans are opposed to partial state ownership of football clubs particularly ones with Saudis record so I believe their claims of opposition to same being far more genuine( though I suspect they still watch/use the services of other business PIF have invested in) than fans of the English clubs particularly the top 6 whose opposition IMO is based more on the fact that Newcastle are now a threat than a genuine opposition to sports washing.

The nonsense being propagated by fans of rival clubs is that Newcastle fans who just want to follow their team are responsible for the Saudi states actions or that we should stop following our team because of who the owner is not a genuine opinion its a stick to beat rival fans with.

I remember the Saudis being linked with Man UTD and I don't recall any protests or objections in fact the vast majority of Man Utd fans were welcoming of the prospect just as the vast majority of Newcastle fans are. We all know Anfield Old Trafford etc would still be full if the Saudis were owners its the disingenuous and smug attempt by rival fans to pretend that they are somehow more righteous/moral than Newcastle fans that really annoys me.

Agent Coulson · 06-07-2022 11:12AM

Richarlison gets a one match ban for throwing a flare into fans.

thebaz · 06-07-2022 11:22AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297749#Comment_119297749

He did not throw it into fans, threw into an empty area/section

doc_17 · 06-07-2022 11:23AM

Fairly lenient suspension for Richarlison. But then these things seem to be determined on a whim, maybe there should be some sort or standard ban for throwing something into the stands? As much to protect players as anything from potential police action.

El Gato De Negocios · 06-07-2022 11:24AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297723#Comment_119297723

Not one person has said NU fans are responsible for SA's crimes or that they should stop following club. Speaking from my own perspective only, Ive not seen a single NU fan say anything negative about the new ownership, all Ive seen, and you are absolutely included in this, is NU fans licking their lips at the new found wealth and the prospect of winning a few trophies. The fact that the new owners of NU are guilty of persecuting gay people

https://www.amnesty.org/fr/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/mde230132010en.pdf

treating women like second class citizens

https://www.theweek.co.uk/60339/things-women-cant-do-in-saudi-arabia#:~:text=Saudi%20Arabia%20is%20considered%20one,had%20strict%20gender%2Dbased%20rules.

and a litany of other human rights violations

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/saudi-arabia-human-rights-raif-badawi-king-salman

and it doesnt seem to raise so much as an eyebrow among fans is something that I personally find really disgusting. Support the club absolutely but call out the despicable conduct of the regime. If the Kinihan cartel or similar bought the club would fans be so accepting? Probably not but only because they are actual criminals in the eyes of the law where as SA are morally criminal but set their own standards so not illegal in that sense, even if they would be in any civilised nation in the world.

Fattybojangles · 06-07-2022 11:41AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297805#Comment_119297805

Newcastle fans excited by the prospect of winning a few trophies?! The ba$tards damn them all to hell! How dare they be more concerned about their football club than some blogger? Isn't that literally the point of supporting a team being excited and hopeful that they might win something?

This debate has been done to death over and over again on this forum and amongst Newcastle fans on twitter IRL etc there's no point going over it again but if it makes you feel any better I'll wear a Norwich scarf to the next Newcastle game I go to as a sign of protest.

ShamoBuc · 06-07-2022 12:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297888#Comment_119297888

To be fair, it's a debate that will continue on here if someone talks about it and rightly so. I don't care what Newcastle fans on twitter etc are on about.

The owners are rather divisive due to their history- that's just a fact. That is not going to change. How people view Newcastle now, might change also, or not.

Either way, yes Newcastle fans will be excited.

But in some ways, the club may have gotten out of the frying pan but into the fire. Or maybe not - depending on your viewpoint.

DM_7 · 06-07-2022 01:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297805#Comment_119297805

The issue of sportswashing and how much people want to call oit such items is possibly something that might need to be in its own thread over general premier league thread.

For me I wouldn't expect a poster here who supports Newcastle to answer on behalf of a fanbase. I don't think Newcastle fans should need to reference the moral standards they hold or any difficulties they may/may not have with who owns them or concerns about sportswashing when posting. I wouldn't expect (for example) Arsenal fans to qualify posts here that note any moral issues they have with the role the long standing sponsorship with an airline from Dubai or their sleeve sponsor from Africa in recent times. I am a Man Utd fan and I know they have accepted money from Saudi Arabia, from betting companies which I am very much against but have never posted about my issues with those items in any detail.

I also think it is wrong for fans of clubs to dismiss concerns of others about sportswashing people just worried about another team having money. It is possible for something like this to reach a level that exceeds what people can be expeted to be okay with (sponsorship is a lower level than ownership for example).

Edit: went ahead and set up a thread:

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058253319/sportswashing-in-football-2022

doc_17 · 08-07-2022 09:37AM

That striker Man City signed scored 6 goals in a game recently! More firepower.

If Sterling goes to Chelsea wonder will they still try and buy Raphina as well?

08-07-2022 11:17AM

Big dunc has quit everton a club he has been at for 28 years bar a season and a bit at newcastle and will look to be a manager elsewhere looks like he got fed up always playing second fiddle to and never been given a real chance and looking at the joke that lampard is as a manager who can blame dunc for leaving

doc_17 · 08-07-2022 11:31AM

It’s hard for anyone to get a job managing a Premier League club these days without some previous management experience. So let Ferguson head away and get it somewhere. Personally I think he’s too much of a head the ball to be a top a manger. Passion is one thing, but when that seems to be the main thing you are known for then that’s a problem.

General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

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