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F1 2022 , Round 10 , British GP , Silverstone

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭Ultimate Gowlbag


    You might post some utter w@nk but you have me hooked to read to see how you get a dig at Hamilton every time,I really hope you are at least trying to charge him rent!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,048 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    What a race, loved those last 10 laps or so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,048 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    How many podiums did Albon lose because of Hamilton?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Hamilton made the apex when racing LEC, he was in middle of the track when racing Max

    Also, Hamiltons own logic last year was he was alongside so Max should have yielded. But when Max was in same position in Abu Dhabi on lap 1, Hamilton didnt yield, he cut the corner and that was allowed by the stewards.


    Max did nothing different yesterday that others, Checo, LEC, Sainz etc were doing, yet he is singled out for it. The racing at the end was hardly clean but it was also racing. You can judge it by the rules or by having a feel for what was happening and IMO they gave as good as they got. Race on



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,605 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Watched it back from Micks onboard, Max does nothing apart from put his car exactly where he needs to to make it difficult for Mick.

    We had aggressive moves from Checo and Sainz forcing their opponents wide and off the track to defend, and Leclerc made contact with Checo. I don’t know how you could with any seriousness say that those 3 drivers were good, hard racing while Max was out of control.

    Like I said, some people can see Lewis do something normal and try and twist it into a negative, it’s the same with Max. He does something other drivers are doing but for some reason, he’s dangerous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    The only people that seemed to have been concerned with the Mick/Max battle are people online. Not a word about it from Haas and not even a hint that Mick was in any way annoyed about Max's defence. The 2 of them had what seemed a very amicable conversation afterwards.

    The Haas simply didn't have the pace to pass the Red Bull without Max yielding, which almost no driver would have done. Correct me if I'm wrong but at no point did Mick even get his nose in front of Max.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,621 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Think the closest he got was nose to his front wheel and the was the last corner of the race.


    I really enjoyed that race. Thats what the FIA envisioned with this years rule change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,162 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    I think that could be the turning point for Merc.

    They will have gotten a lot of encouragement from that race.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Did mick start on hard tyres? His start was going to be poor.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭lolie


    I'm not the only one thinking that so. Dont forget his hard-on for Vettel and Alonso.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    It is hard to know.

    I remember Sainz asking Lewis 'are you guys officially back' in the weigh room after.

    People had said previous that Merc would have a good performance at Silverstone, they did - but they are still where they were. They were still a decent bit off the pace in most sessions but then Hamilton was banging in fastest laps as the race progressed. It is a shame that Russell went out and we have no data from there.

    Either ways we don't have long to wait to see how they fair in the next round.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    The merc looks good on smooth tracks, bumpy tracks will be a problem for them still.


    Look at Barcelona. And then the 3 races after



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,738 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,653 ✭✭✭✭flazio




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭waynescales1


    He's absolutely right about the street circuits. The racing is so much better at "proper" race tracks, rather than cars processioning around a street track waiting for a long straight to get a DRS overtake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,077 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Lewis was found to be at fault for last year's crash. He got a 10s penalty for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,077 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    You watched that race and concluded Hamilton's race craft let him down against Perez? Hard to know of this is parody or not.

    Do you think maybe perez got past Hamilton because he has a much faster car? Or are we pretending the Mercedes is as fast as the RB for the sake of this point?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    I wonder will The FIA look at the way barriers and catch fences are laid out after Zhou's crash. Thankfully it didn't happen but if the car had caught fire when it was wedged in that gap there was no way he was getting out quickly.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Either way, Hamilton made the entire race entertaining from start to finish, and that will always be difficult for some to swallow.



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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,668 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    I agree that Mercedes have improved and have closed the gap to Ferrari and Redbull. However they remain a solid 3rd at best.

    Rebull are still the team to beat and Ferrari are still faster than Mercedes.

    Despite the misfortunes of Max and Charles the best that Mercedes could manage was 3rd.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,668 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    He did and he finished a well deserved 3rd. It was most enjoyable to watch.

    However, Perez who was last at one stage managed to finish 2nd which was even more impressive.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Absolutely, but for a lot of the race he was a non-entity. Quietly going about his business. I immediately pointed out that the safety car brought him into the proceedings.

    Nobody can watch that race and tell me they weren't enthralled by Ferrari's indecision coupled with Hamilton slowly-but-surely bearing down on them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Hamiltons repeated claims about that says to me he didn't agree with the penalty



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Perez last to podium

    Mick getting points

    Max driving a car with half his floor damaged nabbing 7th

    Ferrari going all Italian again

    Alonso getting 5th


    Sainz getting the elbows out on the 2nd start

    Ferrari v Red Bull early on

    LEC v Checo v Hamilton after the SC



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,653 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    It's been a year now @Burkie1203 Let's move on. I'm just glad Sainz didn't have to wait until LeClerc and Verstappen were relegated to the pit wall before catching a break and winning a race. The 112th Grand Prix winner. I'm hoping Lando Norris becomes 113.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,077 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    How often do drivers agree with the penalties they receive? Its not much of a test of anything. Every now and again they own up, but it's the exception.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭quokula


    I suggest you look at the lap times. When in clean air, Hamilton's Mercedes was faster than Sergio's Red Bull. Lewis simply got mugged by Perez then took longer to find his way past the ailing Leclerc. After that he was catching the Red Bull again as his car was faster in those conditions but it was too late. He set his fastest lap while chasing Perez down, a full half a second faster than the best Sergio could muster, but he'd lost too much in the early scuffle by that point so he couldn't catch him.

    Clearly over the season the Red Bull has been faster than the Mercedes, but in those exact conditions this clearly wasn't the case if you look at the lap times and are open to believing facts rather than resorting to confirmation bias. The track conditions obviously suited the Mercedes plus Perez had been in an incident earlier in the race and may have been carrying some damage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,077 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Pure fluke. Perez isn't a patch on an aging Hamilton. Fact that Hamilton could set fast laps is testament to his speed even when not in the fastest car. Perez got lucky against a top driver. He can dine-out on that for years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Corben Dallas


    Mega race, all the action and Carlos well deserved first win. Bravo to the Smooth Operator!!!!

    Glad that Guanyu Zhao walked away from that one safely. They might have to ban blade roll hoops... it completely separated from the car (disintegrated).

    Ferrari (largely) made the right calls on Sainz & LeClerc, people seem to forget that Charles was driving a damaged car and should have ordered him to hold position early in the race... even if he was able to close up on Sainz and lap a bit faster. Charles wing might have failed( or had to come in to replace it) later in the race. Plus Sainz started on pole ... it was his race to win. They should have played the team game and focused on getting a 1-2 (with Sainz 1st). Charles seemed to spend his race complaining to the team to give him the race at Sainz's expense.

    Sainz was 100% right to refuse the request to back the field up by 10 lengths to give Charles a cushion on the restart, this was nuts... Charles wasn't goin to win cause he was on the wrong tires and backing the pack up would have put Sainz winning at risk, giving a race win opportunity to Hamilton or Perez.

    The finger waging he got from Binoto at the end was probably along the lines of "... yes that's great to hear your grievances Charles but you should be happy a Ferrari Driver won."

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    I didn't like the way Max pushed Mick Schumacher completely off the track going into Luffields on the last lap(s), with a little more experience Mick should have complained to the stewarts on that one.



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