Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

No Dempo it is not means tested . Those on State pension ( old age ) get the fuel allowance if on a basic payment

PS sorry I am wrong . I was mixing it up with the Electricity allowance( Household Benefit package ) .My apologies

Thanks for clarification 👍

Just in relation to the Thread do we actually know if Ukranian refugees who are 66 or over are actually in receipt of a non contributory pension. I'd be genuinely surprised if they were if normal rules were being applied 🤔

Obviously they are in receipt of something but based on normal rules those 66 and older would infact not be eligible to SWA or a jobseekers payment and as I've mentioned earlier transfer of pension entitlement generally applicable to EU states , Ukraine is not a member state. In essence if we look at the EU directive and entitlements therein, 66 year old would essentially be entitled to nothing or at a squeeze, temporarily entitled to equivalent pension paid in a Ukraine which is Less than half that of Irish, Basic pension 🤔 as for Non Ukrainians caught up in this , what are they entitled to if 66 or older and more importantly thos with no passport or even at a basic level how is pension entitlement being verified

Morning 😏 yes I've raised concerns around the entire ability to open bank accounts here and its actually shocking that rules are being ignored. I'd be all for a basic account in the post office etc but in reality I have to wonder why the need for a bank accout in the first place. The DSP issue payments by cash only via post office network so access to funds on a week to week basis not an issue, obviously with little or no expenditure required for the vast majority of Ukranian refugees, funds might build up, there's a perfectly good post office savings account they could use (although, I can't believe I'm even saying this) 😏

That figure came about because they have to put a cost per head in order to recoup money spent on Ukrainian refugees from the various EU funds.

Taxpayers money is being spent, Gone, flowing out the door , never , ever to be seen again and will continue to flow until 2024 at least but guess who'll ultimately be paying for all of this 🤔🤔

Meanwhile over in Montenegro.... slightly off topic but relevant..

Fascining investigative journalist piece on BBC news yesterday, "To Russia with Blood", where it would seem Russian Dirty money flowing into an Irish Bank account, to Irish Developers based in Cork and selling property in Montenegro and what's our government and indeed regularity bodies doing about it, essentially nothing .

It's available on BBC player but not in Ireland, is being repeated on BBC news and telling its not Irish Media reporting on this scandal.

The primary role of government is to look after the needs of its citizens from the taxes they collect from them, even more so to look after the needs of its most vulnerable citizens, governments clearly haven't been doing this preferring to virtue signal and spending obscene amounts, promising the impossible to look good in front of our EU masters displaying some sort of inbuilt inferiority complex, like a teenager who has suddenly come into money, we are a country who in essence has never grown up, an eternal adolescent, producing these politicians whose very being seems built around pleasing either the EU or the US so unsure are they of where they stand in the world.... I expect much more of this going forward as the fellow says, for what's coming over the hill doesn't look to be much better imhv

I have checked Boggles, back to my point about Net contributors of which Ireland is one , the funding your referring to is not being given by way of a refund in case that's what your thinking and I again refer you back to the Taoiseachs on statement on the matter . Articles posted earlier in thread if you were bothered to look.

Believe what you want to believe Boggles, Ireland will see little if any refund from the EU with the costs of this .

I'm not sure were you missed the Taoiseachs own statements ,government having to raid the covid contingency fund, budgeting €3billion next year, public finances under strain , you seriously believe none of this is happening and the EU will be covering the cost of all this 🤔 words escape me .