Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

One large family (2 sisters, three cousins with children along with an elderly grandmother) I'm helping to has refused to move out of the hotel they're staying in to a large house, that was found for them (free for 6 months). The reason was the free food/no bills, they openly admitted it.

Part of the family has nowhere to return, houses destroyed back in Ukraine. One came from Kiev and she is working remotely to the ukrainian company, she said its difficult to trace and that she gets her salary to Ukrainian bank account, so she claims the full welfare allowance here. One of the sisters has found work as a kitchen porter, she is paid €10 x hour cash in hand. Another sister works in a shop, 2 days a week - she was warned not to work for more than 16 hours a week to save her welfare payments.

I imagine the EU will very much strengthen on the back of Soviet Expansion.

As for the UK, I don't think anyone could look at the state of Brexit with a straight face and claim it was the right course, if anything it's the UK that looks like it could "collapse" in the next decade or 2.

I notice Irish politicians have gone very quiet on the subject after the initial burst of confident exuberance. Coincidence or acceptance that things are going out of control. More and more 'ordinary ' people that I meet are increasingly complaining about how the government are handling the matter. It has the potential to do a lot of damage to our society if controls aren't put in place soon imo.

The biggest treat to Europe is infact its economy falling apart, Break down in social cohesion and infact a rise in right wing sentiment (Poland and Hungary come to mind)

As for UK domestic division, perhaps why Brexit actually happened is lost on some, I seem too recall anti migration played an enormous part in campaign that ultimately won.

To suggest right wing sentiment goes quite during war is utterly bizzare.

Well said, I actually had to look twice at what was said about right wing sentiment quietening down during war , I thought surely, dillusional, maybe too early in the day 😏

The biggest threat to the European, EU and world economy at this moment in time is the war.

The "right wing sentiment" from Poland has quietened, they are at the front now of EU unity and are Hungary's biggest critics. Even at that the dictator lite Orbán has had his cough softened with the stark realisation that he had cosied up to an actual mass murdering dictator.

Brexit was based on so many mis truths and lies it would be hard to quantify at this stage. Plenty threads for it though.

The war has unified Europe, the EU and most of the rest of the world, again this is not my opinion. It's the reality of the situation, also it's very little to do with the topic of the thread.

Both Extreme Left Wing and Right wing elements will use any crisis to further their goals, that's nothing new 🤔 the problem with this particular Ukranian Refugee crisis, various governments are actually feeding these extremists IMHO.

Even the most placid, Kind, open minded, objective, Decent people I meet daily are getting exercised over what is going on, not because they Hate Refugees, their daily lives are being impacted in many different ways. The most Liberal in society are looking on at a Two Tier support and welfare system being actively introduced by government and are in disbelief and dare I say getting angry.

As you well know I'm referring to additional strains on public finances, Heath service, access to GP services, Scans, Tests.

I suggest you check what recession entails which amongst other things includes increased unemployment

The cost of living is super charged by this war but didn't need to be and the cost of living and housing crisis had both started before this war In case you hadn't noticed.

I suggest you check what recession entails which amongst other things includes increased unemployment

A recession is 2 quarters of negative growth. We have never had more employed in the country than we do now and the forecast for the next 18 months is continuous growth. A Once in a generation pandemic and a once in a generation European war, and still growth.

What scan or test can't you get because of the war or Ukrainian's?

Anyway, the HSE looks like it got some positive news today.

i've been trying to change my gp recently. Private paying patient but no clinics are taking on any new patients in my cachement area. So I'm stuck with a doctor that I cannot stand and paying through the nose for all consultations to boot.

Talk of converting Baggot Street hospital to house Ukrainian refugees. Absolute lunacy housing refugees in the heart of the city, in an area which has some of the most expensive property in the country. I’m sure some college students would gladly pay to stay in a location like that, and no doubt would be absolutely fleeced for the privilege if they did.

https://m.independent.ie/news/baggot-street-hospital-under-consideration-for-housing-ukrainian-refugees-41794233.html

The influx won't be coming to halt anytime soon going by this line from that article,

"t comes after calls from local residents and businesses to open up the property for the tens of thousands of refugees which are expected to arrive and a local developer offered their own builders to be used for renovations

Up in West Donegal recently the area I was in has 4 hotels in 3 towns. The hotel in the glenties has been filled with Ukrainians. 180 extra people in a town of 805 in the last census. It'll be grand apparently.

Next town over the hotel is up for sale, some fella with a few hotels with refugees was rebuffed thankfully. Next town over killybegs has 2 hotels, 1 has Ukrainians in. Come the winter I've no doubt 3 of the 4 hotels will no longer have tourists. The fallout for local pubs, cafes etc will be dire.

To our politicians - keep em coming, To the media- keep the fluffy articles coming. Ta in advance.