Russia - threadbanned users in OP

My god you are absolutely tapped in the head. No I’m not enjoying it, I’m just stating a fact that them leaving the city won’t be good for morale. How the F is that taking glee from it? Should we just lie and say it’s great news?

You’re the strange individual here, going on an unhinged senseless rant for someone stating the bleeding obvious.

And no I’m not a putinbot russian loving scum as you quite clearly and wrongly presumed. I hate that midget and always have. Jesus this place is nuts.

Id imagine they have weighed odds,and it looks obvious the west arent going to get involved in any real substancial way,other than armaments supplied,the hard slog is left near entirely to ukrainians,who are losing their best troops in a dogfight they wont win......and this attack is designed to break spirit of citizens in kyiv,showing they strike it at will,with nothing to stop em

Simply be weight of numbers russia will beat them,not by any great military prowess or tactics,

Russia can drag ukraine into protracted fights and then popup launch attacks elsewhere,disappear again,stretching ukrainian defences as they will need to be able to cover everywhere at once, (curiously same will apply in russian occupied areas into future).......without a substancial help/deployment of nato/us forces russia wont be dislodged by ukraine forces alone next year,as they will dig in over the winter

,next year will be an horrendous bloodbath,level unseen in europe since the balkens, in eastern ukraine as they attempt to force russia out and russian backed paramilitaries begin operating againest civilians there (the wagner group is long suspected of operating there already)......the refusal to enforce a nofly zone was a horrendous mistake i feel

If russia can strike kyiv with 50% of cruise missle,whats to stop them striking kyiv with 50% of its nuclear missles??

I certainly wouldnt want to be waking up there with that over my head,the brits marched into iraq with highly questionable evidence saddam could hit london and were backed to hilt by media,kyiv can be hit with 50% of missiles can be fired at it and noone coming to their help.....i dont see bombing kyiv helps ukraines military

Noone doubts ukraine are well able to slog it out,they are much braver and fighting a much tougher war than was fought anywhere in the middle east,just the level of attriction is unsustainable and will be worse next year as they attempt to dislodge russia,they simply havnt manpower to do it,and will need outside help,

Are usa and nato willing to break emselves and western econmies,lose 100K troops to drive russia out of eastern ukraine???looks to me that is what will be necessary,a horrendous ground war that noone sane wants,but necessary