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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,343 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


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    Ukraine are lucky in the regards that say if they were against America, America would have the majority of their drones and planes attacking any retreating Ukrainian forces from the city. Hardly anything would make it back to Ukrainian lines. Against Russia on the other hand a lot will make it back. If Russia was smart they would concentrate most of the airpower here for the next few days and take any Ukrainian military vehicles or infantry out. Perfect time for time to take out your enemies while they retreat but like I said if the Russian military was smart in this regard which for Ukraine they are lucky in this regard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz


    I got the images from a trusted telegram channel so a link wont help with any proof that was asked for.

    My view is that the blade part of the poster was left unglued and sticking out.There are no ripping marks there.It is the ideal place for someone to grab the picture,it would entice your fingers to that sticking out part but it is like a snare in the woods with only a small chance of success......And also I will admit that it may be a big hoax that I fell for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,646 ✭✭✭rogber


    I hope you're right, I'm less convinced that lessons can be so easily transferred 1:1 between wars, circumstances and technology are very different and human will alone cannot guarantee victory. But time will tell.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,288 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Ditto. Afghanistan and Vietnam for that matter are quite different and hold serious geographical advantages for insurgency. Even with modern technology. They also hold cultural advantages too and not so obvious ones like what people are used to. If you're born and bred in an Afghan valley with maybe one dirt road in and out where electricity is born from diesel, you are used to and can take a lot more privation from an enemy than someone living in an apartment with netflix who drives to the shops to buy beer and eggs.

    Can Russia win? Of course they can and will, unless there is a huge injection of Western military kit into Ukraine. What they've recieved so far is a pittance. Twenty tanks here, five howitzers there and so on. Dribs and drabs. The Russians have the kit and the sheer numbers and have learned from their initial screwups. Their kit may be inferior, but a musket is more actual use than an M-16 without bullets, or not there at all. In this new war of artillery and attrition Ukraine can't win. Though it starkly demonstrates how utterly below par the Russian forces actually are. They should have walked this and clearly haven't. With all their on paper advantage and terrain that suits they're fighting for every road, hamlet and ditch.The credit for that goes to the Ukrainian defenders.

    It also depends on what we mean by "win" of course. Russia lost the second it crossed the border and headed for Kyiv. It might have gotten away far more with "doing a Crimea" with Donbas and stopping there, but they didn't. Their economy is screwed, their future investment cut off. All they have left is oil and gas and customers are pivoting away from those. They're a rusty petrol station where the owner gets 90% of the profits and the staff are on an increasingly downward pittance. Russia has some of the largest natural resources on Earth, they should be one of the wealthiest nations on Earth, but the US state of Texas alone is wealthier.

    So when the dust settles and settle it will Russia will almost certainly "keep" Donbas and the land corridor to Crimea. But that's no win for them in the medium and long term. They will have "won" a crated wasteland they can't afford to rebuild, with enough of the population still there hating them for it, no matter how much they try to Russify the place. The rest of Ukraine will be dragged, kicking and screaming if need be, into Europe and the West and will never look towards Moscow again for the foreseeable future, while any Russians with eyes to see will look at Ukraine with envy.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    Blades are very flexible remember and could easily be bent into a curve to suit the curvature of a pole…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,521 ✭✭✭zv2


    They can't get western parts for the planes they stole so they are using 'rogue' parts which means the planes are not deemed to be safe anymore by the west.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    Incompetent, poor discipline, unwilling to carry out orders or just plan numbskulls.... who knows. If mobilisation is to accrue back in Russia they will need to find some serious mid-rank and SNR rank officials to keep the army intact or it will disintegrate. Cannon fodder is all very well, but even they need direction and orders. Can't see too many 40-50-year-olds being happy being told what to do by a 20-year-old.

    Dan.



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'll not edit my original post at this late stage, but what I meant to say was, even on a flat surface it would be possible to see the blades. To your post, yes the blades could be bent, they weren't in the image shown, and would still stand out.

    But, re the original post poster - I didn't mean to disparage him. He's one of the best, most informed posters on here... I was simply responding to that particular post. Just needed to clarify a few things. 🙂



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A General Russian mobilisation is going to throw the cat among the pigeons. At the very least it'll be a wake up call. Special Military Operation my arsé.

    And, I think mass Russian Cannon Fodder in the chaotic days of WW2 is one thing, in a 21st century Russia it's not going to be so easy. Cue lots of "accidental" friendly fire on officers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    the black market for parts will dry up very fast. there's been planes grounded already because engine parts were only made in USA



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Communist Russia was a much less forgiving place than Putin's Russia.


    It's hard to see how he could return to that level of cohersion and control.


    As much as he wants to return to the Soviet Union..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Putin is a megalomaniac, nothing he does is logical.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,041 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Rumor has it that had it not posed a significant threat to his regime ( and himself) Putin would have ordered a general mobilization a good while ago, but while a limited action, even with heavy losses might be tolerated, a full scale mobilization would not have full support, and quite the opposite in fact, outright resistance. So if he is planning this, then his back is surely against the wall with little or no manpower option's left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Absolutely incredible when you think back to the initial days and the fact that they banked on, and planned for, a 3 day war, with a two/three week conflict as Plan B.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    Well he said that right. If Putin is not stopped here he will keep on going. Death and destruction is all gangsta do. All the while looking on from their mega mansion bunker

    Dan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭mondeo


    Eventually Russia will run out of missiles, they can't keep this up for another 6 months on a daily basis. They don't have the money to make 1000s more on demand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,424 ✭✭✭✭Say my name




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,343 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Poor chap looks shell shocked.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,708 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I still think a long war is very risky for Putin. It's hard to imagine how it boosts him on the domestic stage - long wars are usually bad for business and are never popular with the public.

    I was reading a book by British historian Ian Kershaw about the end of Nazi Germany and he argues that the longer and longer the war went on, the less popular Hitler was becoming by the month with the public, even by as early as mid 1942. This seems to be a recurring theme with most long wars.



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  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yet the Russians had to fight for every building in every city on the way to the bunker. Putin's popularity doesn't matter. The Russians are a slightly more "dignified" version of North Koreans. Behaviours have been imposed (well, some places never knew differently) for centuries of scumbag rulers and it's now an integral part of Russian culture and psyche to shrug at anything and everything.



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Britain are going to train 10000 ukrainian soldiers




  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They are allready using old soviet stocks of Tocha U,Onyx anti ship missiles and airlaunched KH34/55 missiles with 1960s guidance and 60% failure rate



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Even missiles doesnt like Russian orcs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so




  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah, poster above pointed out someone likely input their own coordinates by accident.

    I was once talking to a potential job candidate over the phone while looking at their CV. They asked me my telephone number, and I gave them their own telephone number back to them from their CV. smh - not my proudest moment. People inexplicably do stupid things. At least the CV didn't explode.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    The problem there was Russia were using their new voice activated AI smart guidance system.

    It went like this: "Pushkin Missile Unit, target scumbag fascists in vicinity"

    *Target acquired*

    "Launch and destroy fascist"

    *Missile launches and incenerates Russians*



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    There’s no way of knowing who, where or when this happened to 👀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭thomil


    Ah, Mk 14 Syndrome strikes again. Was the guidance system of that thing copied from old Bureau of Ordnance designs?

    (Naval History buffs will get the reference)

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭Thinkingaboutit


    Denys Davydov is a patriotic Ukrainian but doesn't avoid bad news.

    Here on a tour with Operator Starsky, Ukrainian National Guardman and Youtuber. Visiting Hostomel airport, a scene of notable carnage in the early days and the destruction of the Antonov AN-225, said to be the largest aircraft on earth. The thumbnail aircraft is a far smaller AN-25A.



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