Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Your post started off admirably, discussing the things normal decent people are seeing with their own eyes. You then go on to say Eastern Europeans and other nationalities are not economically self sufficient, I'd argue the vast majority of Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish have proven themselves to be exceptionally economically self sufficient and furthermore the vast majority arrived here in Boom Times. As for "Other Nationalties" not quite sure what your getting at, so I'll park that.

You then correctly talk about Fatigue, actually it's exhaustion, but it's actually a more recent phenomenon because of the Blatant Hypocrisy that is evident and a two tier Support /Welfare and Refugee system being actively persued by this Government who actually appear oblivious to the fact they are causing social cohesion to break down with some extraordinary decisions. It's almost like, "Nero playing his Fiddle while Rome burns .”

But finally you then talk about the "usual suspects" stoking up white privilege, when infact its the very decent hard working people you describe so elegantly earlier in your post that are infact the "Usual Suspects", ordinary decent people who are certainly not racist, have worked hard, paid their Taxes, Showed compassion and understanding at the start of this, perhaps donated, pledged their homes and were prepared, like me to give this time, all this despite the obvious slow moving train wreck it's been.

These "Usual Suspects, including me, are Now livid at the Shenanigans going on, Abuse of Hospitality, Two Tier supports systems, outrageous inequality affecting actual citizens, an open door policy, not of Refugees but on taking the absolute Piss, Rules being waived, Zero verification or accountability, Free for all and most Galling, Government sitting idly by whilst other people struggling, crying about no magic money tree, all the while, literally throwing money at Ukrainian Refugees whilst the Country and Citizens crippled financially.

Is it seriously any wonder there's developing breakdown of Social cohesion when Government actually encouraging it all seemingly in the cause of Virtue signalling on the world stage, it's sickening.

Honestly I wasn't trying to be overly critical you make some excellent points, I was just confused, I actually believe the Majority of Irish people and indeed settled migrants have been decent, understanding and actually incredibly understanding but that has changed for what they and I see as astonishing double standards. It's actually not the Refugees as such that I think annoys people it's the obvious disconnect government seem to have with what they are doing whilst seemingly abandoning their responsibilities toward their own citizens and to be fair, some extraordinary decisions and indeed lack of decisions that I believe is causing unhappiness which is turning into justifyable anger and frustration.

At a very, very basic level people cannot get access to services and for years and they now look on at what is occurring and must be wondering what did we do so wrong.

Apologies if I took up the usual suspects comment wrong 😏

NATO head honcho reckons the war will go on for years. I think it's pie in the sky that anything but a small minority of Ukrainians here will be going home soon. High petrol, gas, home heating oil, coal etc are here for the foreseeable also.

https://www.thejournal.ie/ukraine-war-lasting-for-years-5794409-Jun2022/

O Dear your still clutching at straws. Can you please enlighten us as to whom exactly is verifying the Validity of Ukrainian Driving licenses at the moment, honestly I think we'd all love to know. Also don't forget a Ukranian passport is not even required to gain entry.

My actual main point relates to the ease being afforded to Ukranian Refugees (and more questionable arrivals as part of the EU directive) when pensioners and others being forced to jump through hoops to open Bank accounts and being left waiting weeks dangling by Irish Banks.

There are very clear Anti Money Laundering rules with regards to a person's Identity and indeed residency, you can huff and puff all you like, Bank accounts are being opened and rules being ignored or waived.

A very simple solution would be to allow refugees collect their SW at post offices, they can spend their money as they require, at a minimum an appropriate amount of time should have been considered to allow for verifications before permission granted to open bank accounts in the state.

Incidently despite your on going denials, I seem to recall an post and other financial institutions falling over themselves offering free banking, a feature most of us can only dream of.

Was in at a bank last week switching from ulster to this bank

Ukrainians in and can’t speak English , only requirement for them is to bring in someone that can speak English

that’s all.

Ssssssh, that will horrify some on here 😉

I'm actually happy for you, I'm helping two sets of pensioners locally being given the run around and know of many others and not just pensioners as I've stated previously, I see what your at , focusing on the pensioners, the problem effected many others but seemingly and strangely not Ukrainian refugees not a wet week in the country 😏

I presume the fact they are already in the Branch they know exactly what little they need , but again, I've still not received an answer to a really simple question.

Who is actually verifying the legitimacy or otherwise of Identification being presented, not just at ports of Entry but Banks and indeed other outlets that require Identification.

I know the Answer but why is it so difficult for people to accept there is a very, very serious issue which in essence is being ignored.

Yes, I'd forgotten the Claire Byrne show have covered this issue as has Joe Duffy 😏

Also on newstalk radio just now , Ukrainians only getting offered 2 places of accommodation and not multiple to speed up the process

too many refusing as wanting different areas, closer to work , friends etc

I dont know . But they certainly dont need €200 a week if they are having all meals handed to them .

If true, it really shows us that is luxury seeking, more so than asylum seeking.