Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Medvedev sounds like some cheap hack writing for the Sun or the Daily Express. It's amazing to think this is a former "president" speaking - they're a nation of yobs.

Yeah I just realised it was behind a paywall but I was able to read it without a subscription the first time for some reason. Anyway as "Bass Reeves" mentioned above the wagners group were trying to take an oilfield. Some other things I had heard were that thee Marines had spent some hours literally begging the Russians to withdraw or not to attack, not out of fear but out of confidence in their own ability to destroy. They did not want to slaughter the Russians but were left with no choice and then about 30 minutes into the intense counter attack the Russians were on the radio to the Marines begging them to stop.

On paper it was an armoured Russian/Syrian Battlegroup of 500 with T72 tanks vs a platoon of Marines and Commandos, but everything about the Russian army is on paper. They do not do combined arms, the Marines brought artillery and airpower down on them and destroyed them in minutes. That is what would happen if Russian sent an army into Poland/Lativia/Lithuania/Finland/Norway/Bulgaria if they are not capable of protecting skies in Ukraine from MIG29s they would be slaughtered when they try go up against Eurofighter/F16s/F35s.

translation:

"Surrealism. Citizens of the Russian Federation from the Free Russia Legion fighting for Ukraine captured Ukrainian citizens from the LDNR formations fighting for Russia"

It's such an old lesson that it's almost surprising now that all armies don't do it: train the troops well and encourage small-unit initiative. While the Germans in WW2 are often thought of as having been mindlessly obedient automatons under the Nazis, in fact individual initiative was very much encouraged. While orders in the Allied armies tended to be quite prescriptive e.g. "attack the village at this time, from this direction, in this formation", German orders were much more mission-oriented e.g. "take the village by 0800"; the local commander on the spot being left to work out the details himself, since he was the closest to the situation and knew the ground best. Known as "auftragstaktik" (in the west as "Mission Command"), this is one of the things that made the Germans so effective in the attack and on the defence, and was the approach also used by Napoleon when issuing orders.

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These factors appear to be in play in Ukraine at the moment. Let's hope that if they are, the Ukrainians don't let their advantage slip.

The analogy I was speaking of would not even involve US troops. European Nato troops are trained to pretty much the same standard and with pretty much the same leadership and equipment. Russians and Ukrainians are testing one anothers armies to the limits.

European NATO troops would destroy any Russian invasion without US troops. "Burgerface"s rereg is living in a 1975 fantasy world regarding the ability of the Russian Army.

That's really horrendous. The demographics of Ukraine with so many soldiers dying are going to be absolutely destroyed after this, not to mention the psychological trauma among all the survivors, with all the lost husbands, sons, fathers

Russian chopper goes down