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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz


    Hopefully his little blanket will be pulled up over his face one of these days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Every day you tell us a obt more and more and more weaponry is on its way to Ukraine and the difference it is going to make. Yet they are still getting pulverised. Why???. Interesting read in this morning's CNN re failures of the Ukrainians to get much of the weaponry or their inability to use it when they do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Russian authorities accuse Ukraine in shelling of Krupets border post in Rylsk district of Kursk region

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,803 ✭✭✭threeball


    Germany could send their entire armed forces to Ukraine and they'd still get gas. The Russians have a threat equivalent to them holding your per dog over a bridge in one hand whilst holding a knife to their own throat in the other and yelling if you don't do as I say I'll cut my throat and the dog gets it.

    It's as farcical a threat as their Nuclear chest beating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,048 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Pretty sure the woman, at least, is Maria Zakharova, the Russian's spokeswoman.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz


    I thought it was a man but you are right.She is choking Valery Gerasimov.One more to identify??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz


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    2 dogs and a goat or 3 goats?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Lavrov back left



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭Field east


    If true, I think that the idea of Macron, Schultz and the Italian PM going to ‘meet’ Zalensky next week in Kiev is farsical. Why , because they are going to persuade Zalensky to give up the Ukr lands occupied by Russia and payment will be ‘help’ In ‘fastracking’ Ukr membership of the EU. Might also ‘promise ‘ euros towards rebuilding cost of what’s left of Ukr. Otherwise , what other reason are they going for? All three I am sure have been tick tacking constantly to hatch out their approach . And based on the livery, very, very low level of assistance provided by all 3 to date it is easy to to come to the conclusion as to what that is.

    if above is the case they they are ‘rewarding ‘Putin for his efforts and when the opportunity again arises he, or his successor , will be off again to Moldova or Latvia or wherever

    If I was in Zalensky shoes I would have the US and ,eg, Poland as an equal at the meeting . I would also set the agenda at the outset. That would include that the giving up of part of Ukr is not up for discussion



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Now this is just a feeling I'm getting so... but I'm not so sure the US would push back against such a proposal that much. Ukraine needs western weapon systems yesterday and while they've gotten a fair number, considering America could well be described as the "Amazon of war", it does seem to be a lot less than they could be supplied with. Never mind Germany dragging her heels to a extremely suspicious degree. From what I've gathered from the Russia support out there, they seem convinced that Germany wants this over and soon and don't want to risk the economic fallout of continuing. For an odd change I tend to agree with them.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I read that.


    The noises coming out of Washington is worrying for the Ukrainians.


    Worries sending more and more arms leaves America vulnerable.


    Talk like that makes you think how long this can be sustained.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz


    Italy and UK have offered to demine the black sea but russia want Turkey to do it.France has offered to escort the ships out.Zelensky won't demine unless it has security(NATO presence maybe) in case of a russian attack once the sea is safe to navigate.There is a lot to talk about there.

    I have no idea why Scholz is going????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal


    What's farcical about MAD?

    Your advice amounts to 'go all in, he's bluffing'.

    Don't go near a poker table.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,356 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Names and a calendar scrawled on a door and wall with a bit of charred timber.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,062 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Pretty much -

    It's massive game of chicken ... Thing is ,in the short term Germany needs gas reserves for THIS winter ( and next too ) ,they'll probably be better covered by other suppliers and lng by then ..

    In the short short term Russia doesn't need cash - they can't really buy anything internationally any way ... in a year or two that they'll desperately need customers .. but the war MIGHT be done by then - and the Europeans MIGHT just go back to buying all the Russian gas - hell Russia could provide cheap gas in LNG tankers , if it keeps the Germans happy ..

    There is also a likely hood that as the European oil ban kicks in further , Russia will have to shut down wells .. many of which won't be able to be reopened ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,062 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    In the same way that Russia chest beats about nuclear threat - they're also worried about a nuclear response .. if NATO went full on intervention into Ukraine- ( ala Korean war ) , that wouldn't automatically trigger a nuclear response ... It probably would trigger a full Russian mobilization.. and it would mean long range attacks on Russian supply and military assets in Russia itself ( unless both sides just quietly agreed to go home .. unlikely ) all of which ups the risk .. and even if/when the Russians were beaten back to the border - it wouldn't be over - there's no real defensible line at the border , and if the Russians who've just mobilized don't agree to just stop the war what then ?

    ( Which is kind of Russia's problem now , the Russians can decide their "special military operations" over any time they like ,they're on Ukrainian soil after all ... But the Ukrainians can keep fighting to get it back .. )

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,356 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    There's no rules in this war bar Putin rules where the West can't attack Russia.

    If the west attacks Russia. Putins promise to his people of superiority and safety no matter what war crimes they commit or people kill, falls apart.

    If Putin is to be crushed and the thought of an invasion of a foreign country never to be repeated then Russia needs to be crushed. Something various leaders don't seem to want to think about.

    It's a Quasi arrangement atm of appearing to be woke and liberal while the other player operates to a different set of rules.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,803 ✭✭✭threeball


    How many times has Putin threatened the west about interfering in Ukraine and each and every time he's done nothing. And will do nothing. Hes a coward who can't face the thought of dying so he sure as hell isn't going to assure his own death.

    I think its you who needs to stay away as ever little bluff would have you folding just in case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11



    Russian artillery shelled Sydorove, Mayaky and Zakitne at Sloviansk direction, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz


    That happened yesterday east of Kherson.

    Today there has been an explosion in Crimea.There's lot of old weapons been transported through the region so possibly an accident




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,017 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I lived in Tashkent for awhile, lovely Country and people. Would not mind going back there agai, even under the present circumstances.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭GeneHunt


    Moscow flight going into Crimea now

    Screenshot 2022-06-15 131238.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,785 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Presumably they'll have no problems keeping the Tupolevs flying and in spare parts. Although some of their MBT components were from the west I think?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Russia keeping the pressure on Germany by dialing back the pressure on their gas pipeline and reminding them who's boss?

    Wouldn't put in past the cnuts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭thomil


    That's been going on for a while now but seems to be flying under the radar as most of the world's media seem to be focused on the Severodonetsk salient. I'd say that Nova Kahovka would be an even bigger prize than Kherson though. Not only does the city provide a crossing over the Dnipro via the hydroelectric dam and power station there, a crossing that is a lot harder to destroy than the bridges near Kherson, it's also the starting point of the Crimean Canal, the primary source of drinking water for Crimea. If that were to fall back into Ukrainian hands, it would give Ukraine a boot on the throat of the Russian presence on the peninsula.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,704 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Only way to end it is maybe to give up the disputed zone to Russia, but not Mariupol , or any of Ukrainians coast. Give Russia the Dombas region, but rename it The Dumb Bastard region, only if with this deal Ukraine gets full EU and Nato membership.

    A compromise, but they can't get an inch of Ukraine soil with out such a deal, or Putin will only regroup and go again in time. Needs to end here, and only EU and Nato membership ends it forever



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭GeneHunt


    There's lots of second hand parts in Russian yet!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,803 ✭✭✭threeball


    You can't cede as much as an acre of land to the fcukers or the precedent is set for them to come back for more. In fact they really need to push them out of Crimea too as complete punishment for their invasion. Not only will they have gained nothing they will have lost an extremely important piece of real estate. Leaving them in Crimea means Ukraine is always at risk of attack from the Black Sea and Crimea itself. I'd shell it til there wasn't a single living thing on the penninsula rather than leave the Orcs there.

    When all that is done, set up a ring of defenses all along the border and beef up their radar and anti-aircraft/missile defenses.



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