Katherine Ryan claims she called out alleged ‘sexual predator’ celebrity on TV series

RobAMerc · 10-06-2022 01:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119182056#Comment_119182056

Seriously ? That's a very very narrow definition and I would say VERY sexist ( but of course you wouldn't be called out on it, coz only men can be predators and only against women! ) :rolleyes:

growleaves · 10-06-2022 01:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119182559#Comment_119182559

She hasn't even said if this alleged sexual predator is a man? The only description is "fellow comedian".

#DontAssume

EmmetSpiceland · 10-06-2022 01:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119183626#Comment_119183626

She referred to him as “him”, G. I think we can take from that that the, alleged, perpetrator, at least, identifies as male.

magicbastarder · 10-06-2022 01:46PM

You believe her before even knowing what the allegation is, who it's against or any of the other details?

#alrightythen

knowing what the allegation is or who it's against wouldn't give me any more or less reason to believe her, surely?

if a woman says she was sexually harrassed, generally i will believe her. they're usually proved right.

hynesie08 · 10-06-2022 01:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119183682#Comment_119183682

The He man Woman haters club are gonna come for you for that one.

Even though you're correct.

growleaves · 10-06-2022 01:58PM

You believe an allegation you don't know the content of.

That's fine but taking others to task who won't prejudge a criminal matter (assuming it is a criminal matter) is a bit much.

Not only do we not know the accused is, I don't know who this comedian is.

So why would I have a commitment to believe an unknown (to me) stranger over another unknown stranger about....well whatever it is I'm sure it must be bad!

magicbastarder · 10-06-2022 02:02PM

i believe she is telling the truth. i fully accept i am not a self-contained comprehensive legal process able to definitively tell for certain that she is; so i am not stating that i think it is a matter of undeniable fact that she is telling the truth, i am stating i *believe* she is telling the truth. i don't think that's a controversial or hard to justify stance.

growleaves · 10-06-2022 02:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119183735#Comment_119183735

Yeah the Woman haterz will be all over magicbastarder calling him tendentious, unfair names like "Man hater".

10-06-2022 02:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119183482#Comment_119183482

I'd imagine it was your crazy assertion that to not believe her would be foolish.

magicbastarder · 10-06-2022 02:42PM

maybe i should be clearer so; if people disbelieve her - as in if they think she's lying (based on the information to hand), i think that's a stupid stance. in a way, that'd almost be akin to stating you believe that there are no creeps working in that business. there are probably multiple.

if people choose to neither believe or disbelieve, to take a neutral stance, so be it. they're probably not the ones arguing here.

BattleCorp · 10-06-2022 02:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119183808#Comment_119183808

I'd be rather sceptical of most of these types of allegations until I knew a bit more about them. She may well be telling the truth but I don't automatically believe someone is telling the truth when I hear vague allegations about things like this.

I'm a believer that if you know something or suspect something, then maybe a trip to the police is in order rather than talking about it in a podcast.

growleaves · 10-06-2022 03:05PM

'if people choose to neither believe or disbelieve, to take a neutral stance, so be it. they're probably not the ones arguing here.'

That's what I'm doing, reserving judgement.

I understand why this as felt as unsatisfactory because things like 'presumption of innocence' are legal abstractions and men and women don't live in a theoretical world of legal compartmentation! They live in a real world of dangerous chancers.

But if anyone can be finished off by an accusation it's too much imo. False accusations can and do happen.

cj maxx · 10-06-2022 06:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119183509#Comment_119183509

He’s creepy , and also not one bit funny

10-06-2022 06:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119183682#Comment_119183682

Let's hope you are never called for jury duty so

10-06-2022 06:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119184021#Comment_119184021

Women haters? You mean that people that don't automatically believe women by virtue of them being women?

*Edit quoted wrong poster. Meant to quote the person you were responding to. Apologies

magicbastarder · 10-06-2022 10:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119185288#Comment_119185288

why do so many people struggle with this concept, and conflate it with a legal level of proof? i believe lots of things i hear or see without requiring proof. you do too.

if a colleague told you 'someone smashed the wing mirror of my car yesterday', you'd believe them without demanding to see the damage. that's what i mean when i said i believe she's telling the truth.

11-06-2022 12:21AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119186158#Comment_119186158

Yes I would. From people I know based on my relationship with them and my interactions with them.

I have absolutely no reason to believe someone I don't know who admits to having no proof and who refuses to give vitally important details of an incident that they evidently wanted to become public knowledge.

Her non-revelation has helped nobody, but has the potential to hurt many.

RabbleRouser2k · 11-06-2022 05:01AM

We know there are jerks in the Irish comedy scene- I remember Dave McSavage did a 'life as a street comedian' years ago, and he was a total piece of crap.

Everything from making making crap jokes about people's physical appearance, to harassing teenage girls (one joke went something like 'the sluts 500 meter run' towards a group of very young women).

Another guy used racial slurs on stage (can't find the article about him, but would have to do a deep dive) and the one time I saw him on TV, you can audibly hear an audience member shout 'get off, you're rubbish'.

From what I've heard, from comics within the industry, he's a bit of a tool. But runs a comedy club, so they tolerate him to get gigs.

Donald Trump · 11-06-2022 06:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119184131#Comment_119184131

What are you believing? That she called some fella a predator, that she thinks he is a predator, or that he is a predator?

As for not naming him - she could be sued for defamation for calling him such in front of one other person the same as being sued for calling him such on TV or interview

...Ghost... · 11-06-2022 07:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119186158#Comment_119186158

What I believe tends to require a bit more than a hashtag trend and an agenda. It also depends on the source and the potential reason for what I am being told, or what I am hearing/reading.

If a colleague is telling me that someone smashed their wing mirror, I wouldn’t necessarily just believe any colleague. I would base my belief on a number of factors, such as how well I know the colleague. Do they often exaggerate or lie. What is the reason they are telling me this; random declaration or just contextually appropriate for a current conversation! They could be genuine, or they could be just bullish!tying because they lack the ability to have a proper conversation without filling it with conflated stories.

If a celebrity who I have probably never heard of makes an accusation without naming someone or having gone to the authorities to give a statement, then I rightfully question their motive and refuse to fall into line and hashtag ibelieveher. I don’t automatically disbelieve, but I have a healthy skepticism and caution, because if too many people mindlessly believe a story without requiring any proof, it can cost reputation and it can and it has cost lives of innocents. One doesn’t have to stand one one side or the other, but one should not just automatically believe a story because it might be true. Because it might be false too.

Based on the details of what has been said….I wouldn’t believe a word of it. Far too vague and conveniently self serving. Makes herself sound like a hero and a victim. Another liar firing shots in the dark for a flash of attention.

Maybe she has a new show she wants to promote? I don’t know her. I don’t care, but I don’t swallow her bile either. Give a name…tell the cops, or STFU. The media is the most reckless way she could have shared her “story” which has no details.

frosty123 · 11-06-2022 12:00PM

KR comes across as a sour puss b1tch, ... wouldn't be surprised if she was rebuffed as this is her way of getting back😐

11-06-2022 12:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119182120#Comment_119182120

What subreddit are people discussing this on? I'd like to have a look, if someone can PM that would be nice :D

charlie14 · 11-06-2022 01:27PM

When vague accusations are thrown out there without a name, then you get what is happening now. Idle speculation as to who she is referring too. Such peculation has ruined lives and careers in the past of the innocent, and that was before the nowadays social media frenzies over such accusations.

Katherine Ryan cannot be unaware of the names of those that are now being bandied around, and while she may be afraid to name this person publicly for fear of being sued, I do not see why she should have a problem stating who it is not.

Muahahaha · 11-06-2022 01:50PM

Im not really sure what purpose her stating this serves. If anything it throws suspicion on a whole load of people she worked alongside over the years. Its not a nice thing to do as this is how rumours start. It is a sh1t or get off the pot scenario, far better that than people having rumours spread about them on the basis of an allegation that is aimed at someone else entirely.

As an aside I find her utterly unfunny and she is one of the main reasons I stopped watching comedy panel shows as she just shows up on all of them ad nauseum

AndrewJRenko · 11-06-2022 03:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119187548#Comment_119187548

What's next? Her skirt was too short and she was asking for it? Any other victim blaming tactics there in your tool box?

Liberty_Bear · 11-06-2022 05:41PM

I get that she is calling attention to the matter, however this was not the right time to go about it. In the wake of Amber Herd its like open season on some women (and Herd was shown to be a liar). No names have been mentioned by Catherine but its good that she lets others know she is not alone

Penn · 11-06-2022 05:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119188952#Comment_119188952

The show would have been filmed and edited several weeks ago, and it wouldn't be worth editing that section out because of the Heard trial because it's not relevant.

Ryan and Pascoe were talking generally in terms of things they themselves have experienced as women in comedy. That's all.

Liberty_Bear · 11-06-2022 06:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119189038#Comment_119189038

Even at that in a general context it would be useful ina few weeks down the line to let others know they arent alone

tooka · 11-06-2022 06:48PM

this lady is relatively famous and has a platform, if she is a victim of a sexual assault or is a witness to some being victimised she 100% should go to the police. By not going to the police she is allowing the predator to continue to freely attack Others.

this predator has probably sexually assaulted many others and people like Katherine Ryan are also to blame for staying quiet

thefallingman · 11-06-2022 08:48PM

No idea if it’s true but she does come across as a bunny boiler

Katherine Ryan claims she called out alleged ‘sexual predator’ celebrity on TV series

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