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Katherine Ryan claims she called out alleged ‘sexual predator’ celebrity on TV series

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,207 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    From 8out of 10 cats does Countdown there's 1 really creepy fcuker but he's gay



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,899 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    I think a sexual predator is maybe some one gets young women drunk has sex with them.or gives them illegal drugs, especially women who are much younger than him like he's 30, they are 18, eg he has sex with women probably against their will. I find it strange though when a 21 year old man is dating a 17 year old girl. The laws in the UK about defamation are much stricter than America. Jimmy Savile was abusing young women for 20 years plus before he was publicly accused of anything. It's strange because she has been on 3 TV comedy shows and she worked with him at least a few days. To be accurate she says it's a comedian so that does not include everyone she works with.

    If she has no proof she could be sued for naming him


    It's called going Instagram official eg you appear on insta as a couple, and every famous person does it now,

    Every actor has to be on Instagram to promote whatever the latest TV show, film they are in now

    It's obvious she can't name him as she could be at risk of being called a trouble maker and losing tv work. Many actors have been removed from various American TV shows after being accused of sexual harassment

    Post edited by riclad on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Honestly, I think throwing the cat amongst the pigeons is rather reckless.

    Years ago, Ulrika Jonsson spoke about being raped by a prominent male figure at the place she worked (as part of her biography), then some TV show named her alleged rapist as then TV presenter John Leslie... and his career was over. And his life... was destroyed.

    Didn't matter that a thorough investigation was launched, as well as court proceedings, and Leslie's name cleared... he was done.

    Jonsson could have said 'he didn't assault me'... but she had a book to promote and sell, and this created interest in the book.

    Creating this kind of controversy... allegations. Seems really dodgy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Jeju




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,088 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Seeing Russell Brand being mentioned a lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Surprised it wasn't Jim Jeffries who was mentioned. LOTS of creepy behaviour on his part. He even joked about it.

    (plying a 17 year old with drugs, for one, just so he could sleep with her)



  • Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    She isn't a whistle blower. She is a dog whistler.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,834 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    breaking news; every man she's ever met has had his show cancelled/been fired from his job.

    anyway this basically boils down to two options: 1. you disbelieve her (and i reckon you'd be a fool not to believe her). 2. you believe her, but think she should keep her mouth shut; i.e. that unless women are willing to name the people in question, they shouldn't talk about it.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    The sad thing is, many Irish comedians were called out for being predators/ rapists. A few comediennes spoke about the harassment they faced, as well as their own rapes.

    I know James Veitch was called out by many women. Back when he did a post-grad in Sarah Lawrence. Doubt that was the only place he was predatory.

    And there was a few articles about the UK comedy scene regarding predatory behaviours. Comedians got called out, many of whom claimed to be feminists.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8486409/British-comedy-stars-accused-sexual-harassment.html



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    I don’t even know what predatory behaviour is supposed to be as opposed to opportunistic behaviour.

    Handy that nobody can be sure what she is actually referring to because she provided just enough information to kick start the rumour mill.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,820 ✭✭✭Xander10


    I wonder is that fuelled by the YouTube clip where Carr asks her what's the worst thing said behind her back, and she is sitting next to Brand at the time?

    All speculation at the moment.



  • Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why would anyone, who doesn't personally know her, be a fool for not believing her?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Incredibly irresponsible doing this kind of "admission" - just fuels rampant speculation and can ruin innocent peoples lives and careers. This is the beginning of a witchhunt that could end up burning the wrong person at the stake.

    Let the police handle it, not a trial by media



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,834 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    men: 'this is terrible! innocent mens lives could be affected! hand wring!'

    also men: 'ooh, i wonder if it's X, he was on show A with her? or Y, she doesn't seem to like him. or Z, she's not appeared on telly with him since 2018'.

    my opinion on this is somewhat - i wouldn't say tainted, i'll use the word flavoured - by the fact that my wife was sexually harrassed twice by a known irish celebrity, on the street in dublin. as in approaching her, asking her about her sex life, asking was she into bondage, that sort of thing. obviously i'm not going to name him here, but that's the sort of **** some of these creeps get up to and you can be damn sure i don't think women should be told to keep quiet about the issue, unless they name names.

    people mention going to the police - i doubt the gardai would have done a thing about it had my wife reported it. his word against hers, etc.



  • Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So you think women should just go around and say "I know a sexual predator but I'm not saying who"?

    What good does that do? Who does it benefit exactly?

    But you are right, the police wouldn't have done anything about someone asking if your wife was into bondage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    You absolutely should have made a report.

    Maybe it wouldnt have gone anywhere, or maybe it would. The complaint would have been noted, and maybe enough other people who were harassed by this person also reported it, each report adds to the credibility of the last.

    You cant decry the ineffective garda/justice system but then at the same time, not even report anything to them? How do you expect the gardai to do anything if they dont even get a chance? They cannot act if you dont report it to them!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    I do wish the “usual suspects” wouldn’t be in such a rush to jump to the defence of this male predatory sex pest.

    We don’t have any concrete details, as yet. It could turn out to be a, self declared, “male feminist” or a person of colour. Someone they would only love to pillory, and condemn.

    You don’t want to have to backtrack and, suddenly, start supporting this woman. Patience is a virtue.

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The truth is a defence in libel and I doubt she'd have much trouble crowd-funding any fees if she was sued. If it's meant to be common knowledge then make it properly common knowledge.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,834 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    this happened over 20 years ago; my wife was a student in trinity at the time. whatever chance of anything happening now, i suspect then the gardai would have ignored her.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,834 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    that's the problem though - being first to stick your head across the line is not a simple thing to do. which is why these things can take years to come out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    There is nobody to defend right now as the only details we have are glorified gossip - its an incredibly irresponsible thing to do, and could actually jeopardise any trials against the alleged guilty party too by having all these details and claims and speculation in the public domain.

    I could understand speaking out if the police had covered it up ala Jimmy savile, but here they admitted to not even going to the police!

    By spreading vague details like this, not only are they risking that justice will not be done to the guilty party (if there is one) but they also are putting innocent peoples livelihoods and reputations at risk. Incredibly irresponsible! How you can defend this practice is beyond me, and typical from yourself, you try and turn the situation into a partisan men v women, and dragging male feminists or people of colour into it. Get over yourself.



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well she's already done it to the person's face and in front of other people so I doubt there'd be convincing to do. She's pretty much got to the point she's untouchable professionally (would have to be outlandish and untrue allegations to sink her) and is in a better position than just about anyone to do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,498 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,498 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,218 ✭✭✭✭Danzy




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,834 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    my joke comment about her colleagues having their shows fired?



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The baldy one? Yeah it's just straight up filth he spouts 90% of the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    What she is doing is explicitly not Whistleblowing



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭growleaves


    You believe her before even knowing what the allegation is, who it's against or any of the other details?

    #alrightythen



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