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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,412 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    It's a pity, I would usually check the front pages of the papers regularly and there was some intereresting discussions on it too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,113 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Shame, they had some really good stuff back in the day re: Siteserv, INM and the dealings of a certain businessman who shall not be named

    The Irish media scene is a lot worse off without them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,252 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    That's sad news, it was a bit of a staple of Ye Olde Irish Internet for me for a good few years. Haven't gone near it in a while but there was a time when I'd have read it daily with a coffee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    I was a regular visitor and occasional commenter, almost from the start. I spent far too much time reading comments and getting a kick out of some of the recurring jokes. It was a very satisfactory balance of hiberno-eccentricity and sociopolitical commentary.

    I stopped visiting so often when the site seemed intent on promoting some very uninspired content. I've forgotten a lot of it but the awful "Leather Jacket Guy" stands out.

    I dropped in the odd time and found that the increasingly nutty conspiracy stuff had taken over and had set the tone for the comments too. I would visit the site maybe once a month but haven't clicked into an article on Broadsheet in a couple of years.

    I would bloody love it if we could all pretend the last few years on Broadsheet never happened and go back to the good old days.



  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Completely jumped the shark during COVID lockdowns. Whiff of the far-right off it tbh.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,647 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    They firmly dug their own grave during Covid with the prominent anti-vax/anti-covid content, not to mention the crazy conspiracy theory stuff. More recently their stance on Ukraine/Russia left alot to be desired.

    Such a shame, they had some great content back in previous years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,803 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Used it to look at Sunday paper front pages the night before but can't say it'll leeave a big void in my life...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Was an occasional visitor until they went all Gemma, that was it for me. The comments always seemed like a clique, no interest in that stuff.

    I think breakingnews.ie does the newspaper front pages, for anyone needing that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,419 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    The idea that they went down some full on alt right conspiracy road isn't really accurate.

    Most of the Covid "conspiracy" stuff they posted was nod and a wink type stuff, never full on by any means, but that's the memory people have of it for some reason.

    Some of the more "Woke" people in their comment section seem to be welcoming the closure as a victory even though they're the most vocal people on the entire platform, they'll have to find a new bridge to hide under.

    They ran Bloggorah in years gone by (before all the thicko's got on the internet thanks to social media), hopefully there's another project on the way but I wouldn't hold my breath.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,419 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Isn’t it funny how none of Gemma’s many defamation cases never quite make it to Court?

    SOP within far right circles to be threatening and fighting each other when things go sour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,419 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    I have a problem with how the term "far right" is used, it's lazy labeling. Broadsheet isn't/wasn't a far right website, yes they were posting stories about Covid that weren't in line with popular consensus but saying they're far right is a stretch.

    Someone in the broadsheet comments section mentioned that the people they've been arguing with there for the last few years should join Stormfront, similar garbage gets thrown around on this site ("boards is turning into storm front") and it's just lazy argument.

    Differing opinions exist, we all need to deal with that as a fact of life. Everyone who disagrees with us nowadays has to be identified and labeled as something repugnant, it's easier and more expedient than rational discourse.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    There's 'different opinions' and there's 'Let's listen to Gemma now because she has some interesting ideas'.

    You're right though, I probably should have implied Broadsheet was 'far right'. They're not Grift, for sure. Maybe medium right, and leaning towards the far side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,113 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Must you ruin every thread with your own obsession with the far-right boogeyman under the bed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,419 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Gemma was listened to there about 5 years ago. She was at one stage a respected journalist, the guy who runs broadsheet comes from the same industry, who would have thought that two journalists would talk to each other? Must be a massive far right conspiracy.

    There's plenty of people who interacted with Gemma O'Doherty over the years before she went off the deep end, are those people all far right loonies too?

    This is the problem with the type of garbage you're stating as fact, it's based on a foundation of your ill informed opinion, you don't stop to think, never mind do due diligence before posting absolute waffle that is at best daft ramping up to libelous , then you go on to row back when it's pointed out to you.

    The amount of clowns in Ireland who are hell bent on willing a strong far right into existence never ceases to amaze me. Far right political entities in Ireland are the absolute fringe with a pathetic level of organization and support, but all the same they're about to take over according to some people on the internet. I won't be checking under my bed for the far right any time soon.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,419 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Some people on Twitter.

    Now that's proof that you're right.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,016 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Never ceases to amaze that the far-right will go out of their way to claim there is no far-right. I guess you could call it “gaslighting”.

    And, isn’t it weird how much they hate the, applicable, “labels”? What’s that about? Lots of denial. Racists, homophobes, misogynists, transphobes, bigots and the rest can’t stand to be called as such.

    What’s that old saying again, ‘to thine own self be true’? Might be a lot less angry, and hate filled, if they just accepted what they are and tried to get past it.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Gemma was a travel features writer who had well gone off the rails at the time of her bizarre presidency bid. Broadsheet didn't 'interact' with her, they provided a platform for her to extend her reach.

    You've gone for some fairly extreme levels of strawmanning in your post there, attacking stuff I didn't actually say. I'd broadly agree with you about the fringe nature of the far right and pathetic levels of organisation and support. The closure of broadsheet is a fairly good measure of the pathetic levels of support, as you go further out to the right.

    Nope, it doesn't prove that I'm right. It DOES prove that my position isn't that unusual or extreme, as some round here seem keen to spin things.





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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭youngblood


    Always was first port of call for news, Irish takes on things and then I forgot about it for a while and when I came back it was all this

    Conspiracy BS, is there even a virus? Gender type sh!te,

    that I couldnt be bothered scrolling as I presumed they were pushing some crazy extremist narrative-

    It's mad how they originally started out as being very relatable and ended up agreeing with the likes of Gemma O Crazy pants & Co.

    I'd even wonder are they ok???



  • Site Banned Posts: 20,686 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Didn't a few regular commenters get involved in some doxxing campaigns too.


    Used to be decent, but it's far from what it was in only a few years.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Chickens coming home to roost.

    How weird that advertisers want nothing to do with the cesspit of conspiracy crap and right-wing nonsense BS became. Sad to see it go, but completely unsurprised by it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭GalwayMan74


    Good news.

    hopefully boards.ie next



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    It went completely down hill during covid which is why many people stopped visiting. Also the comments used to be quite funny years back but they just turned into a nasty cesspit in the last few years. I really dont get why they let it lurch into all the anti vax shite, it turned off their audience. Surely John Ryan saw the numbers of visitors going down but they just kept on pushing that line, they shot themselves in the foot. The same thing happened to the Property Pin as well.

    Hopefully someone will set up a site with the next days newspapers on it, it was very handy for that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,419 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    I'm the one arguing that broadsheet wasn't a far right platform and that the far right in Ireland is a joke.

    Are you implying that I am myself a member of the far right? I'm assuming you have proof of this.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,419 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Is it your contention that by addressing issues that are relevant to a lot of discourse in modern Ireland in relation to this that I am constructing a strawman?

    Any time something is raised in a discussion in the abstract sense the person doing so is "building a strawman". More lazy argument, always playing the man and not the ball.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭Fallout2022


    broadsheet.ie is closing.


    It's folding?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,016 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    No, certainly not. Very dangerous to, directly, call any users, on this site, “far-right”, “bigot” or “racist” etc.

    I’m sure I’ve explained it before, on another part of Boards.ie, but it’s a “quirk” of the site where if you call a racist “a racist”, a transphobe “a transphobe”, a bigot “a bigot”, a homophobe “a homophobe”, and so on, then you, yourself, are liable to get sanctioned, if not banned when the racist, transphobe, bigot, homophobe etc reports you to the moderators.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Yet you created an account as recently as 6 weeks ago...🤨



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,113 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Nothing to do with advertisers but instead contributors I believe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,419 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    So you're saying that you aren't stupid enough to state it directly but you're happy to imply it?

    Let me put it to you this way; do you think that I am any of the things you mentioned above?

    Glazers Out!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I had completely forgotten about broadsheet for a long while; for a good period, it was a go-to site during my day's browsing. I foolishly commented on articles n' all. Out of deep boredom / a random synapse firing, I had a look to see if it still existed during CoVid ... and yeah, had thought there was a whiff of anti-vax about the articles. Didn't stay long enough to confirm: had wondered if was just me, but forgot the site again as quickly. Guess I was right.

    Hadn't realised it extended to indulging the likes of Gemma O'Doherty though - that's quite the leap off the ideological cliff edge. Learning it was also flirting with more openly prejudicial viewpoints? Well, I can see why it's now closing. The language of the "goodbye" post reads weird though: I can't figure if they're lamenting the editorial swing in the first place, or simply bitter at the wider world for rejecting it.

    No question though: no more than the High Street squeezed out the small, niche shops in favour of franchises and chains who could afford the high rents and overhead, so it goes with the internet. Small, independent sites - especially those with a more localised market - are finding it harder and harder to keep the lights on. Server costs, marketing, salaries, it all tots up; Social Media is a lumbering, toxic beast always threatening to shutter these kind of sites - including Boards.

    The vanilla transition has flaws, big ones, but you'd have to drag me kicking and screaming before I jumped into the howling void that is Reddit or Twitter. It's just not the same as a big clatter of (mostly) Irish folk talking anything & everything in relative civility.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    My contention is that your suggestion that I was bigging up the size or strength of the far right in Ireland is strawmanning, as I didn't do any such thing. I just pointed out what Broadsheet had done, and the company they were keeping.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,419 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    The company they were keeping? By highlighting a five year old article involving somebody who is now in conflict with the website in question?

    What you posted suggested that broadsheet and Gemma O'Doherty had some sort of symbiotic relationship when the reality is far removed from that.

    Another poster cited what they saw as your "obsession with the far right". I can't speak to this myself but I'm going to assume it's a topic you've spoken about before on this site as you chose not to correct that poster when they mentioned it.

    Glazers Out!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Let's remind ourselves what I actually posted, which was; "Was an occasional visitor until they went all Gemma, that was it for me. " which you turned into something about far right or alt right in your delightful dash to their defence.

    Can I judge you on all the things you chose not to correct people on around here?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Hardly suprising given that its readership would have had it bookmarked beside indymedia 😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭youngblood


    Had to laugh at this "farewell"

    'Their deeply unfashionable take on recent world events alienated everyone on Broadsheet but a few and proved to be ‘box office poison’.

    When they are wondering why everyone else left due to their "unfashionable" take and fact that know they created nothing but a ground for "box office poison", you'd wonder how deluded they have actually become when they cant see the writing on their own walls!??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,512 ✭✭✭Wheety


    I'm another who used to be a regular before they ruined it. I stopped going back when the conspiracy stuff took over. You can say it was with a nod and a wink or "exploring both sides" but Bodger seemed to lean that way. Then that dragged in the right wing commenters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,419 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Delightful dash? Very creative.

    " Went all Gemma" as a statement is loaded with the assumption that the reader understands what Gemma represents, in this case far right beliefs. Are you suggesting you weren't alluding to the far right when name checking Gemma?

    As we're reminding ourselves of what you actually posted, can you clarify what you were attempting to convey with that statement, for the sake of clarity and transparency of course.

    As for judging me, we're all making judgments about each other all the time. If you make a statement related to how you judge me I may well respond to it if I feel it's incorrect, that's part and parcel of using a site like this.

    Glazers Out!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    My 'obsession' about the far right extends to four posts so far this year, one of them on this thread. Maybe I should work harder on my obsessions?

    Do you generally condemn people for the things they chose NOT to correct?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,627 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Used to read it regularly back in the day, it was a great one stop shop of news and all kinds of stuff.

    Hadn't looked at it for ages, nothing intentional, just gradually stopped clicking into it.

    Checked back there a few months ago to see how it was getting on and at first couldn't believe it was what it appeared to be. Thought it was a joke at first.

    But, no, reading through it made it obvious that the site had gone bananas. A truly bizarre metamorphosis, quite depressing really.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    CoVid seemed to activate a weird switch in some people's brains, where a broad or resting suspicion for authority figures mutated into full-blown paranoia and conspiracy theory. Previously, presumed "sane" people suddenly sliding into more extreme positions. Thankfully it didn't happen with any immediate family or friends.

    Maybe it was just another manifestation of the madness we all went through during lockdown, our mental health collectively eroded by the isolation. Either way, it was quite the shock to see a site I had kept in relatively high regard take such a downward turn. As someone else mentioned, they always had a degree of "both sides", albeit with a bit of a twinkle in the eye. Guess they started believing what they posted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Liberty_Bear


    I lament the passing of Broadsheet. Twould write a few pieces for them over the years . I didnt like the far right bits and pieces crawling into their content but I enjoyed the commentators over the years. One became a friend after I wrote a piece and she listened to me (some might guess who I am lol!).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,898 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Some batsh!t crazy content during Covid. Think that mostly finished the site. The only thing to miss is handy to see the following mornings front pages.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Everything. As It Happens.

    Everything. As It Happened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,104 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Used to read BS every day, often interesting content on it. I stopped completely last year as they'd gone totally over to the conspiracy theory, anti-vax etc side (there was alway an element of it TBH). Looks like I wasn't the only one.

    Shame to see them going (based on what the site used to be like), but they made their decision, and this is the result.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,469 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Given what it turned into, no loss.

    Scrap the cap!



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