Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

That happened years ago.

How long have we had the so called 10,000 homeless?

10 years by my count.

All of a sudden the country has no more room at the inn?

What’s the number you set for saying no more room at the inn all of a sudden???

I think a trickle of refugees and asylum seekers over the last number of years and the massive swarm of them now is a big challenge. Apart from the country heading into recession, we are giving social assistance without means testing Ukrainians, there are basically no checks of security or otherwise as they enter this country, there's a two tier system and it's becoming quite apparent.

Asylum seekers were housed, given an allowance, fed and given medical assistance. They were not entitled to look for work until recently. There were no plans for them, when granted asylum, to house them, or plans to fast track old buildings and apartments to refurb them, no plans to put them even in modular housing estates. It was, and still is, asylum granted, off you go, make your own way. Likewise, a refugee was given minimal assistance. Situations like these headlines today:

how are these situations fair? A few hundred Afghans V's 30k+ Ukrainians?

most of ukrainians are now relocating from other EU countries cancelling temporal protection received there rather than Ukraine itself. Guess what is the magnet to move here from the save place. Double or triple times higher benefits.

Yeah, if they let them in they are essentially breaking their own standards, but all the same I wouldn't put it past them. Standards are becoming more and more breakable in the West in general nowadays. Once there's a sell-able reason, and the masses are on side, all rules can be dropped in the name of satisfying whatever goal is wanted.

After joining the EU the Baltics lost circa a quarter (the young mostly) of their population to emigration to the West and beyond. That trend continues to this day. Bit like Ireland in the 50s losing so many to the UK and in the 80s (to anywhere and everywhere). Before the current war millions of Ukrainians had already emigrated because of economic decay. I met many all over the Middle East....even in Istanbul ..despite the fact that jobs for foreigners there are very hard to come by. Full EU membership, if it happens (unlikely), will just accelerate the great exile. Incidentally Bulgaria tops the list of "dying nations".

Wont have any negative effect on Meehaul, that lad says what he's told

What MM wants and what he gets are two very different things, his Virtue signalling has reached nauseating levels.

With substantial opposition from far more powerful EU member states I just can't see Ukraine gaining entry and definitely not getting any special fast tracking treatment. Notwithstanding Ukraine would have failed the basic tests for consideration but there's going to be a whopping re build bill of epic proportions, membership of the EU would essentially mean, the EU footing the Bill, that ain't happening.

Honestly, it's bewildering, the Trio of MM, Leo and Simon seemed on a mission to out do each other in the world leadership popularity stakes, despite their own country facing many challenges, some quite serious.

Initially I thought they were using the Ukrainian crisis has a distractiongrom matters closer to home, but now I actually think they've lost the plot all together.

What I find personally Galling is the three of them, prouncing around on the world stage, making all sorts of assumptions on Irish citizens behalf without actually wondering do the majority of Irish people actually agree with what they are saying, its breath taking arrogance.

This is not to take away from support of any and ALL refugees within reason.

Coveney in Finland and Sweden today, why is beyond me, it won't be him making any decisions on their application to Join NATO and perhaps I'm alone but this Kite flying about neutrality and EU army is very alarming.

Your absolutely correct and yes our Nutrality is not enshrined in our constitution but a long a treasured principle many governments before have accepted and respected, this current crowd seem to forget its our Nutrality that's has gained Ireland respect all around the Globe, why the need for questioning our Nutrality now is utterly baffling, we have ample protection from very powerful allies, Cyber and Military security are two very different things and Coveney in particular seems to be conflating the two.

Bad enough the country is almost Bankrupt were in heavens name do these politicians think funding for an expanded Military defence force and EU army is going to come from.

We are I believe being brought down a very, slippery Road and all in the cause of Virtue signalling and future career ambitions of a number of politicians .