Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

Why would they have to hide it?

A large van on the ferry or through the chunnel, a decent sized boat from mainland Europe.

My post clearly asked "I wonder how many times they would have to raise the price"

Criminals would of course be interested in it, as it is already profitable. Fake vodka etc was already being sold here without mup, it wouldn't be hard at all for them to do that on a slightly bigger scale (I have no idea how big a scale that operation was) if they wanted to. They can smuggle JCB's cars, people etc.. I doubt a few cases of beer (legally) from anywhere in Europe would make life too difficult for them. You seem to be imagining that they would be filling a ferry with it. They would only need to bring as much per trip as was profitable for them. Criminals aren't always about the massive money.

If MUP keeps rising in Scotland because it is ineffective, then people will sell it for profit when they can.

Criminals would need to hide it because its illegal.

No it's not, to bring in, and no they wouldn't.

No I wasn't. You were the only person that said it would be illegal, and first referred to criminals.

You seem incapable of reading correctly. I'll help. Don't read what I referred to as an example of something that happened in the past. Try reading past that.

Ok, mentioned criminals first (i edited the above post a few times, so didn't notice), that was asking a question.

It wouldn't be illegal to bring it in, nor would they have to hide it, as mentioned a few posts up.

In any case, with the inflation of everything, MUP seems kind of moot at the minute. It changes almost everything in relation to how it is viewed.

All of that, I am aware of.

They wouldn't have to hide it. Bringing it in is not illegal.

I haven't read the whole thread so if I'm repeating anyone, I'm sorry.

Do you think the MUP will encourage a resurgence in home stills ?

Prices in pubs have gone which bites into the differential a bit.

But I agree supermarket drink has gone up a lot more than inflation.

Yes and they wouldn't have to hide it

How am I wrong? Where or when did I say it is fine to import it to resell? I'll have to correct it.... 🙄 (don't go looking, you won't find it anywhere, as i didn't say it).

I am not for MUP, I am 100% against it, but the case of cans (excluding the cheapest small cans) were only that price in sales. What I meant about it being moot, was that nobody is really going to talk about it now coming into summer and going to festivals etc. when it would be most noticed, because of inflation. I am not saying that the price isn't different, I am well aware how high it has become, and we can thank the worst government in my living memory for implementing it. I don't care that 'all parties agreed' and the worst MoJ trying to get rid of 'antiquated alcohol laws' or words to that effect so the family pub can open late when the lease is up. This time last year a case of beer wasn't on sale.

My local off licence is currently charging €11 for 4 cans of Guinness. Their massive profits already built into MUP and they decide to raise them higher.

Glad we cleared that up, now we are all agreed that it is illegal to import drink for resale without paying duties and taxes.

Now that people are being hit with inflation in so many other areas of expenditure it would help if they were not being gouged by MUP.

I blame all the parties who supported MUP legislation.

You should consider leaving the high priced cans to your local off licence. Their representative body NOFFLA lobbied for MUP.

You can't even read your own posts.

You said I was first to mention criminals then you later admitted it was you who mentioned it first.

You made reference to it being legal for criminals to bring in alcohol for profit then went around in circles claiming you you never said that.

Do keep going, it's funny watching you tbh.

So this report from Scotland tells us that MUP has had no effect on alcoholics, and that some are sacrificing food and fuel in order to buy booze.

As someone who thinks that MUP is a good idea (not a great idea) I'm not one bit surprised.

MUP should be looked at in the long term, the higher base price should prevent people becoming alcoholics in the first place.

Price increases helped bring down smoking rates in the past, I can see how the same could work for alcohol.

And the report also mentions that there was no obvious evidence of a move towards illicit substances.

I don't think that can be stated with any certainty that price increases did not reduce smoking rates.

The advertising ban and the price increases all happened at the same time, and over multiple years.

I've always said that restrictions on alcohol advertising should be brought in, in conjunction with and even instead of MUP

There is no need for so much of it in sports like rugby.

The GAA have not had alcohol sponsors of any of their national competitions for a good few years now and it has done them no harm.

The 'man with a van' schemes are apparently running on instagram too. I'm not on it so I have no links, but not surprised, I've seen the weed/drug ones.

That's two reports now saying that MUP doesn't seem to be working, yet we are stuck with it, while the purveyors of alcohol are reaping the extra profits. I also don't think that a report was needed to tell us that it wouldn't work for alcoholics. It's enough of a price increase to annoy everyone else, but they would need to double the price, and then some, for it to have an effect on alcoholics imho.