Galway GAA Discussion Thread #2

h2005 · 06-06-2022 7:08pm

No cutting edge in the forwards. That being said they should have had a penalty. Is 14 the normal free taker?

threeball · 06-06-2022 7:43pm

If this is the best 15 minors in the county god help us. Young lads but I've never seen such brainless stuff. I'd expect more from an u12s club team.

6 points in 60mins is pathetic.

Utopia Parkway · 06-06-2022 9:14pm

Minors have been very poorly coached under the current management. Actually don't think there is a huge difference talent wise between Galway and Mayo at minor this year but you can see that Mayo have a defensive system, structure and a game plan in place while with Galway it's very off the cuff type stuff.

07-06-2022 12:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119167199#Comment_119167199

Worst part was the 24th minute. We had a kick out. FB line stood in position clogging up space.

Out the field the rest bunched and broke off.. I think it was the Galway 6 that ran at the GK completely free with a large gap to kick it through(wasn't a small gap that needed accuracy).. he ended up just banging it into a crowded pack and we won a lucky free.

They looked light on talent but looked like players who hadn't received any coaching at all... Decision making and execution was beyond poor.

It reminded me a bit of watching the Michael Hogan Cup on YT during the week, Galway and Tipp which was a B competition (but allowances are obviously given when these are lads below number 30)

spurshero · 12-06-2022 3:43pm

Minors somehow beat Dublin today then ….. hard make much sense of it all.Anyway good luck to them in semi final .

Happyilylost · 12-06-2022 9:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192508#Comment_119192508

Was delighted for them. For such a talented bunch the wheels really fell off. Even today so much went wrong. I'd say close to the worse penalty I've ever seen plus three other goal chances left behind. But they dug in and got a morale boosting win. Hopefully they can push on again. But Dublin played a similar brand of football as Galway and the open spaces suited. Mayo drop everyone deep and up to now Galway haven't been able to handle it. If Galway get past Derry be no bad thing if it wasn't Mayo again.

Avon8 · 13-06-2022 7:47am

An absolute pig of a draw. The 1 of 3 we really wanted to avoid. Only respite is it will give serious momentum if they do get over it. Will probably be very slight underdogs going into this one though. Very irritating

Green Peter · 13-06-2022 7:55am

It's a tough draw but if they have genuine ambitions to win an all Ireland they need to be able to beat big teams. I have a sneaky feeling Mayo could raise their game for the Kerry match and cause an upset. Dublin to beat cork handy and Derry should beat Clare but I wouldn't put the house on it.

spurshero · 13-06-2022 9:54am

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Don’t think too many ourselves included think we are quiet good enough to win an all Ireland . Like we would be massive underdogs in final against a Dublin or a Kerry . But wouldn’t it be great to be there ! Anyway the bookies make galway v Armagh a 50 50 and I think they are right . For me they were the most impressive team at weekend by a distance . I think they give ya chances as well though and we need to take them when they do . Can see it being open enough which hopefully will suit us to sneak through !

threeball · 13-06-2022 1:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119194693#Comment_119194693

I think its a good draw. They're better off getting the questions answered now while they're fairly fresh off the back of a decent performance than sauntering through Clare or Cork only to get a rude awakening in the semi. If you're going to win it you have to beat quality teams. i think they're well capable of beating Armagh who really only pulled away yesterday after the black card and Donegal are terrible this year. No forward threat whatsoever. We really need to pick up the pace of our transition from defence to attack going forward and if they can do that this game could be the making of them.

Avon8 · 13-06-2022 2:50pm

I definitely accept that argument, there's nothing worse than hypothetically making a final and embarrassing yourself. I did think that test would come against Derry regardless in the semi (think themselves and Armagh are of a similar level) and there's an absolutely huge difference between being 1/6 shots to get to that game and being 50/50 or slightly worse. It's not as if we had it easy or haven't been tested so far either, having to beat both the big guns in Connacht.

Still though I do accept there's silver linings l, if we're good enough we'll move forward with momentum and if we're not we may end the season at this stage. So not the worst place in the world to be even if we did get the serious short end of the stick this morning. Should be a good occasion also. A double header with Kerry/Mayo preferably but wouldn't be against having the minors on in a triple header with Derry's game

threeball · 13-06-2022 2:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119196976#Comment_119196976

We've beaten Mayo and roscommon but we've beaten no one of note in Croke Park. Derry would be quite defensive and not great prep for a potential clash with Kerry or the Dubs. Armagh will come at you. A less full blown version of the other two so its a step up without getting the full on exposure to the quick counter attacks of a Kerry or Dublin.

obi604 · 13-06-2022 4:43pm

Is is possible to get tickets online for Thurles on Saturday?

Or did they all sell out already?

SqueakyKneecap · 13-06-2022 5:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197530#Comment_119197530

I'd say more will be available later in the week once the returns come back from clubs. Very few tickets went on sale this morning and those available were only terrace.

Happyilylost · 13-06-2022 8:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119197530#Comment_119197530

Season ticket holders have till 12pm Wednesday to buy so I wouldn't panic into buying anything yet.

Happyilylost · 15-06-2022 9:25pm

Fahy cleared to play.

16-06-2022 10:56am

Tickets are back up on Ticketmaster incase anyone was looking.. know they weren't there all week so I'm sure plenty need them.

laymansterms · 17-06-2022 8:10am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119208734#Comment_119208734

This is a strange one to be honest. Its great that Henry has a full panel to pick from but a suspension was merited in this case. Again, the GAA's disciplinary procedures are called into question. A phrase I heard years ago still holds true - 'suspensions are for league, not championship'.

On a side note, I would be amazed if the Galway County Board spotted this technicality themselves. The Galway & Clare County Boards have a good relationship (big ball and small ball). They regularly play each other in challenge matches and I would think that there was some working together on this.

Happyilylost · 17-06-2022 8:19am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119214169#Comment_119214169

Whether true or not I heard from "sources" Galway were aware of this loophole for quite a while. It came to pass they finally used it.

He should be suspended. But its up to the GAA to have their ducks in a row. I'm sure a legend not long passed would have a wry smile with people losing their mind over a technicality. Scorned people/counties have long memories.

17-06-2022 8:38pm

Team announced, Coen and Concannon on the bench, David Burke and Glennon in.

I find it perplexing that Concannon is immediately dropped despite consistent performances (outside of the last game obviously) yet Conor Cooney can't seem to get dropped.

People don't seem gone on Fahy but he's far outscored Cooney from play. Even Monaghan has scored more.

With no Niland and Flynn it'll be Cooney on the frees again so I'm predicting another (min) two bad free misses.. why Henry is hanging his hat on Cooney as a free taker despite at least two bad misses a game is beyond me(and has only scored around 9 from play in 6 games which included two poor teams).

I'll give Shefflin slack in most areas but continuing to pick a sub par free taker who is shooting well below 50% from play is inexcusable to me.

Happyilylost · 17-06-2022 9:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119217642#Comment_119217642

Can't agree with Concannon being dropped either. While his form is poor he's shown enough long enough and consistently enough to be given a "play yourself back into form" ticket. Glennon adds legs which hopefully can help counter the Cork running game.

I didn't come much after the Kilkenny game but if our backs are as solid as that game we will have given ourself a great platform to be competitive and if somehow are forwards do click we might have a punchers chance.

Probably to many ifs and buts.

Horgan always plays well against Daithí.

I'm talking myself out of this.

washman3 · 17-06-2022 10:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119214169#Comment_119214169

When Peter Casey got the all-clear to play in last year's final it was the consensus of many posters that it was J.P.'s money that got it sorted. Can we now say that in Fahy's case it's Pat McDonagh loosening the purse-strings. And when Fahy was cleared there was simply no other option but to do likewise for the Banner duo.!! 😂😂

18-06-2022 1:29pm

I know we're winning but this is brutal stuff.

Had one score after 15mins leaving the goal, Whelan's 1-1 and JCooneys point were worldies we can't work any easy scores.

Awful ball into the Cork half often hit to nobody.

Getting cleaned out on puck outs again, I think we won one long puck out and I wouldn't consider Cork a good ball winning team.

Cork have left at least 12 behind and that's allowing for some wides. Thank God they left Horgan out.

Conor Cooney again with another steller half from play and frees, missed a Junior C free, gets booked, risked another booking and has done nothing... Think he'd pull him as quick as he did Fahy.

threeball · 18-06-2022 1:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119214207#Comment_119214207

If so, I was a silly decision to use it to free up this player on this occasion. Firstly he was completely wrong in what he did and secondly he's not even contributing to the team.

ShamNNspace · 18-06-2022 2:24pm

One of them must have knocked over the microphone over on Gbfm

spurshero · 18-06-2022 5:11pm

Rode our luck today but plenty of times it’s gone against us . A shot at limerick now with nothing to lose . Surely leave whelan as close to goal as possible didn’t seem to make much sense bringing him out today . Like other posters I think there’s a case for trying somebody else on frees but that wilL hardly change at this stage . I thought Niland should have took the last one today that Cooney missed otherwise why bring him on .Hopefully todays game brings us on a lot. It will need to for us to have a chance .

Happyilylost · 18-06-2022 10:03pm

Strange game. Wouldn't normally say this when Galway win but I didn't think they deserved to win. Great grit. But technically poor.

Grealish, Morrissey excellent. Daithí had a couple of scary slips but had some big moments too. Cork reminded me of Galway in the Leinster Final. Cut us open with ease but converted nothing and then the chances dried up (thankfully)

Half back line was ok. Hopefully GMac is OK. Thought David Burke had a great game and good to see Cathal Mannion back to some sort of form. Joseph Cooney scored a monster and was steady when moved back to the half back line.

After that what can you say. Forwards just aren't at the races. The amount of dropped ball when in possession is criminal. Firing different combinations but nothing is working. Poor decision making.

Mention for two:

Conor Whelan is am absolute warrior and is carrying an entire forward line. At times he had three Cork lads around him which shows the disregard they had for out other forwards. If any forward steps up they'll make hay with the amount of attention Whelan gets.

Eanna Murphy. Always felt he was a great keeper. Rarely makes a mistake under the high ball (after the performances of other goalies today this can't be underestimated). He's made his mistakes but he's very young and this is unavoidable. Great saves today and when had the chance to find people for puckouts he was on the money. Hopefully he pushes on from here.

Nobody will give us a chance against Limerick and on form that's not wrong. But.

Limerick suit us better than most. It's fire and brimstone power. Defensively we are going ok. Daithí usually does ok against Gillane. If Cian Lynch plays I expect Morrissey to be standing beside him. Then try and match up the rest. Pick for Hegarty probably the most important.

If forwards don't improve its a mute point. On current form they'll eat us alive. But there is hurling in them.

Seemed to be very few Galway fans in Thurles. Apathy is normally reserved for the footballers. Hopefully they come back for the semi final.

Cluedo Monopoly · 18-06-2022 10:48pm

The best team lost but that's hurling for you. Cork could have had a sizeable lead in the first half if they hadn't let in the soft goal and took their scores/frees. Leaving Horgan on the bench was a crazy decision. I cant understand why they took Whelan away from full forward line but we did enough to steady the ship whenever Cork got momentum. Just about.

The underdog tag will suit us for the semi but I see a Limerick v Clare final.

MfMan · 19-06-2022 12:25am

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If a couple of other forwards played up to scratch we would have beaten Cork in Thurles in '08. If Cloonan was available for '05 final, we might have won it. 'If' is a huge word.

Cork never led and, for all the talk of their dominance, they made bad calls on the sideline and too many of their players didn't play up to form. How many times are people going to say of them "they were the better team but.." ? Horgan was dropped for a good reason. Removing him against Waterford changed things around in that game.

Our forwards were mainly drek today, but they were in good form all through the round-robin series - who's to say they can't recapture that vein of form?

FintanMcluskey · 19-06-2022 12:52am

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Horgan was dropped for a good reason.

100%

Horgan was dropped for a reason. Likely related to the fact he's a lot of mileage on the clock.

I think Galway still have a physical presence that only Limerick better.

Galways back line and midfield can match Limerick, unfortunately the forwards can't

threeball · 19-06-2022 7:26am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119221975#Comment_119221975

I'm not sure if this superior physicality thing is true. Certainly was in 16, 17 and even 18 but I can't remember us dominating any team physically this year and certainly didn't dominate Cork who are on the lighter end of the spectrum. Apart from the Daithi shoulder we were bullied off the ball all day.

Limerick will devour us if we bring that level of intensity to our challenges and even our running. Too often we were caught jogging out to broken ball only to be overtaken by a Cork player.

cosatron · 19-06-2022 8:19am

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Threeball u need to start following a new sport your gone as bad now that your even criticising there running. I prefer galway to be in a semi final then sitting at home

threeball · 19-06-2022 8:29am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119222270#Comment_119222270

Well if you want to ignore the blatantly obvious thats up to yourself. I'll call it as it is. Just because we squeezed by a poor Cork team who missed a games worth of scores there's no point putting the blinkers on and pretending all is well.

PeggyShippen · 19-06-2022 10:23am

Joyce centre back for Cork is some yoke. He came out with ball after ball. They ran through Galway like water in that first half but in fairness to Galway they sorted that issue out abit. Totally different match v Limerick. Galway will have to be alot better. Hegarty and Gillane would have burst a hole in the back of the net if they got those goal chances Cork got in the first 20mins.

In saying all that Limerick might be rusty after the 4 week break and Galway will come on again but by God they ll to improve the help for Whelan because casey and finn won't be letting him turn and run in the semi. Grealish was very good and Galway know the ins and outs of Croker but yesterday was a game to just get over and they did.

cosatron · 19-06-2022 10:38am

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I support the team and all there misgivings, whereas your looking for reasons to criticise them. They are not the finished article and are short a couple of forwards but I'm not going to waste any time criticism them because they are trying there best. In 01,05,15 we went into semi finals against superior opposition and came out on top and who's to say it can't happen again

Happyilylost · 19-06-2022 1:25pm

Fantastic game of hurling in this minor game.

threeball · 19-06-2022 1:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119223198#Comment_119223198

Good game. Conceding the short puck out is hurting us. It's not even the full back free alot of the time, it's the centre back.

Happyilylost · 19-06-2022 1:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119223266#Comment_119223266

Niland and Burke some prospects but ya giving Tipp some soft ball. This half time is going on forever!

threeball · 19-06-2022 2:02pm

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It's a long wait when nothings happening.

Burke actually more impressive than Niland today. Bringing him back to take on frees on our own 45 isn't helping.

19-06-2022 2:35pm

Shouldn't really be losing a game where you take the lead deep into injury time(maybe being brought to ET is as bad as you'd hope from that position), but they made too many mistakes so that was the consequence.

Number 7 gave an awful pass into the CB area for Tipps second goal that was poorly executed, and never on, as the receiving player had a Tipp forward closing him down and he turned him over (as was the obvious risk) and it ended up costing a goal.

Number 3 rushed a bad clearance that was blocked to a Tipp player and pointed and then in injury time the number 5 ran himself into three Tipp players and was turned over when you could see the run was never on.

They just had too many of those sort of incidents in the second half.

However it's not important how you win or lose at this level, it's the manner of the individual performances.

We saw recently how little all those minor titles amounted for with next to no return off any of the teams.

I was looking back over some of the minor titles recently and looked at the 2013 Limerick Hawk Eye controversy game(where the Limerick point was given as a wide as it was set up for the football).

C Ryan; S Finn, R English, M Casey; A La Touche Cosgrave, R Lynch (0-03, 2f, 1 '65), S Flanagan; D O'Donovan (0-03), D Kennedy (0-01); C Lynch (0-02), B Nash (0-06, 5f), D Dempsey (0-03); D Coleman (0-01), T Morrissey, P Ryan.

Galway beat them yet Limerick got about 9 from that team, Galway only really got Whelan.

It looks like we'll get at least one or two from this team anyway.

Niland needs to be fastracked into the seniors, we're far too short of options to be holding him back.

cosatron · 19-06-2022 2:56pm

Niland is some prospect for 15 years old. Burke aswell. On the above team, I thought ronan lynch was going to be serious hurler but never developed for whatever reason

threeball · 19-06-2022 3:00pm

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Nilands only 15. No point dogging him like Canning was. You only need 2 or 3 per year to make a really good senior panel with a real blend of youth and experience. There was 3 or 4 in that team today who look very good. Burke and Niland look exceptional.

Tipp were much better than us in the 2nd half. Blessed to come back from 5 down but Tipp upped it again and had some serious players of their own.

19-06-2022 6:43pm

Pitiful Galway crowd at Thurles yesterday.

Avon8 · 19-06-2022 11:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119224226#Comment_119224226

Been really poor this year after being very healthy for a long period. The Canning effect. Star power really knows no bounds, on the floating fan at least. You can see it with Kerry since Clifford came on the scene. Clare support is way up post covid also since Kelly started playing like the greatest ever

SqueakyKneecap · 20-06-2022 8:13am

Even some of the most active posters in various Galway forums and threads seem to never attend matches.

laymansterms · 20-06-2022 8:30am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119225246#Comment_119225246

We were well outnumbered on Saturday but at least the support that was there was fully behind the team. The Cork support that was beside me were really on the backs of lehane, Connolly, Kingston, Coleman. At one stage, lehane was taking his time to line up a 65, especially after missing a few earlier and the Cork fans were shouting at him to get on with it! And the they are the most ungracious bunch I ever came across. Telling us we will get destroyed by Limerick - Maybe so, but at least we will be the team playing them.

Avon8 · 20-06-2022 8:46am

I was happy we were on the 1.45 slot on Saturday and not the later one. Being in opposition to the younger Cork fan with a days worth of beer inside can be an experience alright.

Id be expecting a huge Armagh crowd on Sunday in full party mode, so the early throw in helps there also. I think they'll outnumber everyone (plus the orange stands out so much it seems like there's more of them). Should be a great occasion anyway

macslash · 20-06-2022 12:01pm

I was in a flood of cork fans. Was great shutting them up at the end. They nearly all scattered at full time too.

Cody was sitting behind us too. I'd say Clare will give them a good rattle and should beat them.

20-06-2022 2:25pm

Finally managed to track down the stats to see the puck outs.

Galway 39, won 50%.

Cork 33, won 66%.

We haven't a hope of beating Limerick if we go a third game with those numbers. Leinster final was similar.

Surely if you have to go long, you can work on some sort of signal for your players to flood an area.. it's not exactly rocket science.

When you're losing them time after time maybe you need to invest a small bit of time on the training field outside of the goalie just picking a side and lamping it down and hoping ye win it back.

My estimation was we lost about 70-80% of our long ones and while we can't get a breakdown of what was won or lost, we won basically all of our short ones, so a 50% total (taking them out) pushes you well below 40% for the longer ones.

MfMan · 20-06-2022 2:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119227326#Comment_119227326

It was shocking for most of the first half where ball after ball was returned by the Cork HB line. If Conor Cooney could bloody learn how to field a ball them stats would be much more favourable for us.

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