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Wednesday - Netflix - Tim Burton

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Is this going to be a live action series?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,294 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Yep, with Jenna Ortega as Wednesday.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    10 bucks says this is cancelled 2 weeks after release.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Went to google to see if it was already renewed given how daft a 2nd week cancellation sounded and found out Catherine Zeta-Jones, Gwendoline Christie and Christina Ricci will be in it too and that Danny Elfman is composing.




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Produced by mgm tv so amazon are producing it for netflix so yeah maybe netflix cancel it and amazon take it over



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,890 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Jenna Ortega is hugely popular at the moment so she'll draw a large number of viewers in her own right. Anyone familiar with the Christina Ricci films will probably be interested in at least giving it a look. Plus Tim Burton still has a pretty big fanbase, despite not having made anything decent in like 20 years.

    I would guess this is almost guaranteed a second season.

    My only concern since I first heard about this is the number of 60+ year old men that are telling a story about a teenage girl.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,890 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Maybe they'll look better in the world of the show but I'm having a hard time seeing them as anything other than really impressive halloween costumes at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,890 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    How many episodes will Burton direct?

    Looks all right actually, someone described it as a Reverse Harry Potter; the swimming pool scene suggested it's happy to let it get a bit dark and bloody. Which means it could be a show that struggles to find its audience?



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    A quick look on wiki has Burton is listed as director for the first 2 eps, the rest say TBA, but name Gandja Montiero and James Marshall as having directed some eps.

    I thought for a minute that the whole thing was going to be set in the normal high-school setting, which could have been interesting, and kind of more in keeping with the tone of the films, I suppose. The school she ends up at looks very Tim Burtony so I'm not sure how I feel about that



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Apart from the tree in the courtyard tipping the hat, I actually thought it looked more Harry Potter than peak Burton but I take your point.

    Yeah, the films delighted in setting the Adams against "normal" America suburbia & watching it all burn down; though watching the trailer again, I saw little snippets of the outside world so maybe it won't be entirely focused on Woghorts Academy.

    Oh and as nice as it is to see Greendale alum Luis Guzmán back on our screens, he's a terrible choice for Gomez: the guy should be dapper, stylish, not ... well, looking like Guzmán. Someone like Lin-Manuel Miranda would have been a better fit - if more difficult to nab.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,311 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Totally disagree Guzman is a terrific fit if they want to go by how he looked in the comics. Which looks to be what they are going for.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,734 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    I'll give this a spin when it's out alright.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Interesting. Hasn't know comics Gomez was as pudgy as he was. Just assumed the various on screen versions were vaguely accurate. Raul Julia was so magnetic in the role



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,890 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    John Austin will always be Gomez Adams to me, His real life son Sean might have been a good fit as well however that wouldn’t be acceptable casting in 2022.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    When I heard Tim Burton was involved I lost interest immediately. Was waiting for Helena Bonham Carter and Johnny Depp and Elfman music going "Laha Laha La". But that trailer looked fun. I was never really a fan of Catherine Zeta Jones either. Always thought she was cold. But this suits her well. And, yeah, I love Luis Guzman.

    I am actually intrigued by this and looking forward to it. Just.... dial back on the cut-and-paste Burton and Elfman. They are capable of doing interesting things but, they can also just revert to the same-old-same-old when "doing Gothic".

    I like the idea of skewering Hogwarts a bit. I have nothing against the HP books but they are big enough to need a good friendly slagging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,890 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,890 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    November 23rd is a Wednesday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,032 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    New full-length trailer is out:


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I either missed or forgot Fred Armisen was Fester in this. Neat casting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭artvanderlay


    I don't like the lead actress (she nearly ruined You for me) but the rest of the casting looks interesting. I'll give it a go but I don't expect much.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Dropped today; reviews haven't been especially kind mind you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice




  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    This show, on paper, feels like something that can't fail, but also feels like something that is going to miss every possible target audience it could have hit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,518 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    A huge hit for Netflix, very enjoyable, Jenna is great



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    A huge hit for Netflix,

    Is it? Cos it hasn't been reviewing well and ... well, all quiet here lol.



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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    It's the #1 show worldwide right now, but that's hardly surprising. #5 for the past week but it's only been out since Wednesday. Feels like something people can get through in a day, so interesting to see how long it stays up there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Soo.... what is it now.. 6 days left.. Have you got it cancelled yet? Might want to step it up a gear 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,311 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    It is.

    Breaking records set by stranger things 4 for viewers.

    Reviews aren't that bad from critics 70 percent on rottentomatoes and 66 percent on metacritic. I would say Netflix aren't too bothered about them tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,198 ✭✭✭Talisman


    I've watched two episodes and have found the Johnny Depp eyes/glances annoying to say the least. I am not familiar with the lead actress but I'm presuming this is down to the influence of Tim Burton.

    My money is on Christina Ricci's character to be a bad egg - maybe it's from having been subjected to the Harry Potter movies too many times but there does appear to have been plenty of borrowed material in the show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Just binged EPs 1-4 and found it enjoyable enough that I'll binge the next few episodes when I have time between the footie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,024 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    I finished watching last night, I did enjoy it. Jenna Ortega done a fantastic job as Wednesday as well with the rest of the cast to be fair. I did like the little easter eggs like the two snaps,pilgrims,Itt,the "eat girl scouts for breakfast" line and the boat names. The soundtrack is good aswell, The stones, Cramps,Roy Orbison, Fleetwood Mac and Apocalypticas version of nothing else matters.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭Mobius2021


    Have 2 more episodes to watch and definitely am enjoying it - easy watching. More importantly my wife likes it so it might make her open to watching more stuff outside her usual taste.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    2 weeks plus one day! You've let it not be cancelled! 😁


    I guess it might be worth a watch then! 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    1: That was fun. Felt kinda a level of giddy funny about how it's been written.

    Think they've gotten past all the big parts of the trailers I remember.

    Seems to me they've got a mystery in there.. and maybe two.

    One being about who is killing people and ripping them to pieces.. at a guess I think this could easily just be one of the werewolf/lycan students. I'm guessing that was one who rescued wednesday from the magic guy.

    The other being maybe the magic guy is still alive and maybe there's more like him and maybe they are up to something. A lot of maybes.. 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    2: Oh, this is fun! 🙂 It's like an episode of the week but also with the big long-story mystery.

    Also... have to admit.. it took me until early in this episode to spot Christina Ricci!

    Thought it was clever how they got Wednesday to do the finger snaps 🙂

    I got a bit of Ben Hur chariot race vibes from the canoe race.

    The big mystery.. i still don't know.. maybe a secret society thing.

    Definitely something odd going on with Gwendoline Christie as Weems. So she's a chargling/lycan or something then. I did like how she was smart and used an in-between look before fully transforming back to herself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭Underground


    Going to give this a try as I have heard its not bad.

    One question before I start though, why does every show have to have a f*cking dance scene shoe horned into it now? Are showrunners that desperate to get stuff taking off on Tiktok? Maybe it makes sense in the context of the show (i.e I believe this dance scene is actually, you know, at a school dance) but this trend is getting tiring.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,334 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    It does make sense in the context of the overall arc and the things that happen there if it is any consolation for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    3: World building and story expanding episode I think. Maybe the show is going to settle into this style for a bit.

    I liked the setup in the town. I thought that ..

    Wednesday being there playing away while everything burned and Weems looked on furious felt classic Wednesday Addams.

    I think there might be a red herring there to throw off the audience, this ..

    Thorpe kid showing up in the woods after Wednesday had her vision and then at the end with the dirty hands. OK, sure he might be involved but I don't think it's him turning into the creature. Maybe he's helping or covering for the real person.


    Oh and the Gorgon moment. Saw that coming but still funny

    Awkward easily-figured-out-with-a-chat-that-doesn't-happen moments coming up with Enid I'm guessing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    4: When that started happening at the ball, I could tell where it was going and guessed Wednesday would like it but I liked the twist stinger about it! 🙂

    With what happened at the end..

    I think Eugene must have gotten done by whoever at the ball bumped into Wednesday and I think that means it must have been a student there.


    Oh and..

    Enid and the Gorgon moment about communications issues! Called it from episode 3! 🙂


    As for Weems..

    Now I just think she's just all about covering up the image of the school so it doesn't get closed down.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I see both the show and Ortega have been nominated for Golden Globes. The most silly of all the awards, but still, seems like its a success.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,890 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Haven't had a chance to watch it yet however it has for sure seems like it has been a smash hit for Netflix all over the world.

    By all accounts there is a dance scene in it now that has also taken over Tic Tok so it has been a viral hit as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    I watched this over the past few days as I've been sick and looking for things to watch. It's fine, it's standard enough teen fare. You see the twists coming a mile away but the characters are likeable enough and it passed the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    5: This episode had backstory but I felt it was mostly there to pull the rest of the family back into the show. Some good camera work / direction in the scene between Gwendoline Christie where she absolutely towered over Wednesday.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Ortega is only 5ft tall, Christie is 6ft3. Are you sure there was any camera work involved other than turning it on 😄



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,676 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    ive seen 3 episodes so far, not watching intently but its an enjoyable show and it looks great, you can see they put effort into the colours and using the contrasts.

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