Wednesday - Netflix - Tim Burton

silverharp · 14-12-2022 5:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119925641#Comment_119925641

this forum is a bit counter predictive, seems to gush over shows like She Hulk that anywhere is discussed as being awful with lousy viewership- gets cancelled tout suite, but loads of interaction here and more positive 😁

silverharp · 15-12-2022 11:20am

Ortega is mesmerizing, her dance scene alone has over 19m views on YT , I didnt dig Gomez so much, B&W Gomez was far more flamboyant, Zeta Jones plays her part well, Hand was the breakout character for me.

https://youtu.be/NakTu_VZxJ0

Slydice · 16-12-2022 1:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119994120#Comment_119994120

I was a bit thinking along the same lines but for this one scene they seemed to be aiming the camera down upon Wednesday from above. Can't remember the sound all that well but maybe they also did sound effects to emphasise it.

NSAman · 16-12-2022 2:20am

Loved it!

one small thing that irritated me was her father, he wasn’t a ‘fit’ for the role.

The series is very enjoyable, I have to say. Watched it all a few weekends ago and was gripped.

silverharp · 16-12-2022 10:05am

My single data point was talking to one of the neighbor's kids and asked her what she was dressing up as for Holoween, she said Wednesday , the show hadnt even come out then. If thats in any way replicated it might mean Netflix has a major hit on their hands.

wotzgoingon · 16-12-2022 11:47pm

I finished this last week and found it good. I got Harry Potter vibes from it with the school and then magic.

I didn't think that dance was great but it's all I'm seeing on Instagram so many liked it.

Was that headmistress or what ever you call her really tall or was that camera tricks?

Slydice · 17-12-2022 12:25am

6: The one thing I'm picking up on this episode is from the visit

to the house.. seems to point to it be being Laurel Gates.. grown up.. so then.. just to figure out which of the grown ups she is.

The only guess I'd make is Ricci playing Thornhill but I can't really say anything really points to it..

Agent Coulson · 17-12-2022 10:47am

It has now become Netflix's second biggest English Language show behind Stranger Things and is expected to overtake that soon.

The Jenna Ortega-fronted show crossed the 1B hours viewed mark – only the third show to do that – in less than a month and overtook Dahmer to become the second most-watched U.S. show behind season four of Stranger Things.

Talks with Amazon/MGM who make/produce the show about renewing it for a second season have begun.

https://deadline.com/2022/12/with-wednesday-paradigm-shift-puts-amazon-behind-netflix-success-1235201342/

archfi · 17-12-2022 5:07pm

Harmless teen watch.

They need to relegate Wednesday's parents involvement to near net zero and promote Uncle Fester and Thing and bring in Cousin Itt

ejmaztec · 17-12-2022 7:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120005803#Comment_120005803

As has already been pointed out, Gwendoline Christie is 6'3", so no camera tricks. The only other series that I recall seeing her in was Game of Thrones.

Slydice · 18-12-2022 5:51pm

7: Ha! That totally made sense! The show was doing a lot of the other plot stories but the big plot just felt like it was taking over in my head.

From the diary, I had it narrowed down to two groups of two:

- Thornhill as maybe the controller and Xavier as maybe the monster

- The Sheriff as maybe the Monster and the son as maybe the controller.. with a maybe vice-versa

Now.. well..

So Sheriffs son as Monster but who's the controller. Thornhill jumps out as a candidate and the only other candidate there for me is Enid.

I really don't think it could be..

Weems as I'd say the show will be wanting Gwendoline Christie and probably Weems own big story to run across a few seasons. I did notice the .. ooze?.. coming out of her nose while talking to Wednesday

Slydice · 19-12-2022 1:46am

Finished! Well now! That ended really good! A solid little 8 episode show with a well wrapped overall mystery and plenty of little side-stories to keep it going.

Started big, settled into a consistent feel, something like the first season of the Locke & Key series but then ended with a much bigger bang. Felt like they had more money for this. The star studded cast didn't hurt either. 🙂

I would think this could be watched by kids but would probably be scary in parts depending.

commonsensemedia gives it: 11s (from kids)/12s (from parents). I think the violence/scariness would be the big deal for parents to be aware of.

8: Shocks, surprises, action and fun!

Well, I'd kinda guessed Thornhill last episode. She felt like the only person the story had leeway to point at.. also she was Christina Ricci! 🙂 Didn't see what happened to her in the end .. bar a boot to the face.. so I assume she could return.

Sucks about Gwendoline Christies Weems dieing off. I enjoyed her in the show and though she might have a story to explore. I guessed her motivation earlier on but I thought they might do more with her than just the reveal of Thornhill here.

I liked Enids wolfing out and her and Wednesday having the hug in the end. Felt properly worked through by the show writers. The only other thing I thought I would have liked there was the other wolves to have somehow had some kind of thing/event/acknowledgement of Enid.

One of the final scenes I had a chuckle about was thing taking the phone into the wallet. Just something about it got a laugh outta me. 🙂

Future: Yes! Season 2! Bring it on! 🙂

Definitely a stalker possibility, more for the siren Bianca story, possible returns of Tyler and Thornhill.

astrofool · 23-12-2022 4:45pm

Very good show, also leaned into the source material very well without Burton overindulging himself.

Also wasn't shy about killing characters off.

wotzgoingon · 26-12-2022 5:20pm

I was thinking this while watching the show and forgot to ask and just seen another thing on the web about Wednesday and made me remember so I said I'd ask here. Who plays young Wednesday? I think she makes two appearances. I actually think it's just camera tricks but they may have got a young girl in for the part.

Slydice · 27-12-2022 12:53am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120035221#Comment_120035221

Wiki says.. Karina Varadi

and her imdb says... this was her first role 🙂 Not a bad first role to chalk onto her CV.

wotzgoingon · 27-12-2022 1:02am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120036817#Comment_120036817

Thanks for that.

wotzgoingon · 27-12-2022 1:36am

I found this on instagram. Short clip of her as Wednesday.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClazpcRDSQB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Slydice · 27-12-2022 7:06pm

Damn.. that's actually.. pretty on point for Wednesday.

JP Liz V1 · 02-01-2023 6:32pm

It might be moving to Prime Video for season 2 since Amazon now owns MGM

wotzgoingon · 02-01-2023 6:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120056462#Comment_120056462

Jaysus. Guess I will be heading to the high sea for season 2 so.

The Continental Op · 06-01-2023 7:41pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_MuZmJNirw

In case its not already been mentioned.

Nody · 06-01-2023 10:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120075421#Comment_120075421

Love how the start goes "...and mimicked millions of times on the internet, it's been pure torture. Thank you!" as a recognition of the meme it created.

Slydice · 06-01-2023 11:03pm

Ah, as has been prophesied by the legends that say that Netflix will renew a show only if @pixelburp doubts it three times! 😁

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119152120#Comment_119152120

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119909924#Comment_119909924

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119925641#Comment_119925641

kerplun k · 07-01-2023 3:44pm

This one just caught fire.

A bit like Squid games IMO, not exceptionally great tv shows but just seem to catch the imagination of Audiences.

like Squid Games, the hype around this show peaked my interest enough for me to give it a go.

It’s not necessarily a bad show, but middle of the road stuff. The key really is in the casting and JO kills it in the titular role.

it’s hard to know why shows catch fire like this. Netflix’s scatter gun approach seems to sometimes hit the mail on the head with audiences. 🤷‍♂️

The Continental Op · 07-01-2023 7:01pm

I'm on the start of a rewatch. For some reason I find the whole thing funny even the very start. Why is the Nancy Reagan High School funny? Don't know but it strikes a nerve same as the bust of Nancy a scene later. My theory so far for its acclaim is that it has what I call Radio 4 humour. The sort of humour you get on Radio 4 panel games that you are comfortable with and know the punch line even before the joke is told. From the very title I could have predicted the line "Wednesdays child is full of woe" and there it is about 9 minutes in.

To be brutally honest the only character that I think lets it down is Catherine Zeta-Jones. I can watch her all day but there have been better Mortica's and I don't think she is quirky enough, Anjelica Huston for me was a far better Mortica. On the other hand I wouldn't normally be bothered one way or the other by the actor Luis Guzmán but he nails it as Gomez. However hardly an issue as they aren't in it very often.

The Continental Op · 07-01-2023 7:54pm

Only just twigged - needed that second viewing/listening the cello piece is an arrangement of the Rolling Stones Paint it Black. I knew if sounded familiar the first time but just assumed it was a classical piece. Doh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9IK_N7hgEo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BHLDYSOLXI

wotzgoingon · 07-01-2023 7:56pm

I cannot believe you are watching it a second time so soon.

The Continental Op · 07-01-2023 7:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120079128#Comment_120079128

Its like comfort food.

Edit> I also take it easier second time around and often stop and google/research stuff. Just looked up Nevermore Academy. I sort of felt it must have its foundations in a real house as it felt sort of right. I thought it must be American Gothic style but was wrong. It does exist in part (pre CGI) in Bavaria - Cantacuzino Castle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantacuzino_Castle it has its own website https://www.cantacuzinocastle.com