BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? **threadbans in OP**

How well is that UK government doing? Because, compared to its pr-stv compatriots, it's the worst, at least economically, socially and perceived foreign policy.

European ones, like Ireland.

This whole idea that FptP somehow gives people better knowledge of what they will get from a government is nonesense.

Do you think people voted in 2019 to have the NIP and Trade Agreement ditched?

Recent reserach in the human sciences namely "how we develop fairness" shows, growing numner of medium intelligence people who think they are clearver than others eventinlly have financial grip over intelligent population! what it means is 'As long as agerage british citizen don;t have to pay econamic burden, no matter what is fair or unfair, nothing really happens'.

"every single government function is broken." Have a word with yourself. Sure, the water system wasn't handled the way you would've liked. That's tough. However, water is continuing to be delivered and it's still free. FWIW I believe there should be a charge for water, because it's not free. Ireland's economy is one of the most vigorous in the EU. Comparatively speaking, just on basis of GDP, the UK is only doing worse than Russia, and Russia's got extenuating circumstances.

If you want to see a place where the majority of government function is broken, look across the Irish sea to the one run by your beloved Tories for the last 12+ years. Crumbling economy, bare shelves in the grocery story, 6 years on after a slight majority referendum - now isn't that a great way to run a government - and still working on what they want Brexit to mean. Heck, even the "Minister for Brexit efficiencies" has no idea and had to poll Express readers for their suggestions. I ask you, why wasn't that a general poll? One suggestion that made the cut is apparently to reduce the amount of electrical safety testing that goes on. They didn't need to leave the EU for that.

UK politics and HMG are a seriously badly run ship. How many billions were spent and unaccounted for, with track and trace?

LP position was reality. They put forward the position that Brexit wasn't going to work, and further review and talks were needed. The Tories opted to lie and say that everything was simple, just sign the deal and everything works out.

I can see why people opted for that, but it turns out that both parties were as clear as mud. LP made the mistake of actually telling the truth.

Don't bother it's just an off topic rabbit hole to distract from the disarray the Tories are currently in

Yep and she is the very one using the jubilee as a political tool.

These guys are ejust getting hit with the same old tackle the man not the ball shte like the Corbyn won't wear a poppy sideshow.

Mono, are you suggesting that it is the fault of the voting system for the list above? You think that a FptP system would result in none of it?

And yet and yet... it's your sunlit UK uplands that have FpTP and the countries swirling the drain. While Ireland continues to grow, while there are tonnes of opportunities in the EU or here for young Irish people. All of which has been pulled out from under them by HMG in the UK.

Unpopular decisions happen even in pr-stv governments. Austerity? Debt to be paid by the taxpayer for Irish banks? You think if we had fptp the taxpayers wouldn't be bailing out the banks? It'd be worse.

The two most successful FpTP systems, the US and the UK, have enormous problems all due to the nature of their electoral systems. Do you think gun control would be an issue in the US if it had something like pr-stv?