It's all falling apart alarmingly fast for Boris Johnson across the water. How long you reckon he has left as British Prime Minister? Hours surely?
How many parties are they talking about now? I've lost count.
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I won't share a link but Priti Patel has told Conservative party plotters not to politicise the jubilee by sending in no confidence letters.
She did this by speaking to the Daily Mail...
Don't bother it's just an off topic rabbit hole to distract from the disarray the Tories are currently in
That really is some chip on your shoulder. If you don't like the current setup then you have three choices - i) stay quiet and accept it ii) emigrate or iii) stand for election where you make the difference - what do you plan on doing?
As for boil water notices, what is the water quality like in say France where most still buy bottled water? As for the water and sewerage systems themselves, I do recall our government trying to implement a campaign whereby the public would have to pay for usage and this money would help fund the vast amount of upgrades required (many of which have since been done). However, this was opposed by selfish populist pretend socialism - you couldn't make it up.
As for the HSE & investment, remind me again how much was spent on say tackling Covid? How much has been invested in the NCH? If I look at a government publication (found from a very quick search): https://assets.gov.ie/180719/1aa7c75f-03c2-4a0e-ae48-bea10a0b58e9.pdf, I see that spending increased between 2007 and 2018. I presume there are more recent figures but I haven't looked.
So, I'm inclined to think your anti-Irish government claims are purely to further an agenda you hold - what is it?
LP position was reality. They put forward the position that Brexit wasn't going to work, and further review and talks were needed. The Tories opted to lie and say that everything was simple, just sign the deal and everything works out.
I can see why people opted for that, but it turns out that both parties were as clear as mud. LP made the mistake of actually telling the truth.
The deal was the way to get Brexit done! Are you really trying to suggest, or worse still do you actually believe, that people voted to get Brexit done, with Johnson lauding this Oven ready deal, but that they didn't actually think the deal would be part of it?
More procrastination. OK lets that that view then. Johnson said, 'Oven ready deal, vote for me and get Brexit done without any further delay. The terrible LP said it needs more negotiation and a review of the deal and the options. The public, in their wisdom and knowing what they were voting for, gave Johnson and overwhelming majority on the back of those positions. Since then, Johnson has procrastinated on implementing checks, and is now of the view that the deal is the worst deal ever and couldn't possibly work.
So even taking you confused line that people didn't see the deal as part of Getting Brexit done, clearly they wanted Brexit done which Johnson has singularly failed to do to the satisfaction of anybody including himself and the government.
You are stretching credibility to breaking point with that made up nonsense.
"every single government function is broken." Have a word with yourself. Sure, the water system wasn't handled the way you would've liked. That's tough. However, water is continuing to be delivered and it's still free. FWIW I believe there should be a charge for water, because it's not free. Ireland's economy is one of the most vigorous in the EU. Comparatively speaking, just on basis of GDP, the UK is only doing worse than Russia, and Russia's got extenuating circumstances.
If you want to see a place where the majority of government function is broken, look across the Irish sea to the one run by your beloved Tories for the last 12+ years. Crumbling economy, bare shelves in the grocery story, 6 years on after a slight majority referendum - now isn't that a great way to run a government - and still working on what they want Brexit to mean. Heck, even the "Minister for Brexit efficiencies" has no idea and had to poll Express readers for their suggestions. I ask you, why wasn't that a general poll? One suggestion that made the cut is apparently to reduce the amount of electrical safety testing that goes on. They didn't need to leave the EU for that.
UK politics and HMG are a seriously badly run ship. How many billions were spent and unaccounted for, with track and trace?
Literally every major party in the dail signed up to slaintecare and are agreed on its implementation so thats absolute sh1te and as usual you have no clue what your talking about.
I call it a fascist mindset someone who thinks minority rule is okay and cannot comprehend the concept of majority compromise government, its also a dog whistle of modern right wing fascism to be all or nothing in politics as you seem to be, so either everything you think should be done happens or nothing should happen.
Recent reserach in the human sciences namely "how we develop fairness" shows, growing numner of medium intelligence people who think they are clearver than others eventinlly have financial grip over intelligent population! what it means is 'As long as agerage british citizen don;t have to pay econamic burden, no matter what is fair or unfair, nothing really happens'.
Of course it was a pack of lies and to me it was plainly obvious at the time, but I am talking about the effectiveness of the two campaign messages back then. It was the 3rd GE within 4 years and Labour's position in comparison was as clear as mud.
We were discussing the voting systems, were we not?
We get it you think Ireland is shte.
Irish water pipes have fk all to do with Boris Johnson though.
voting for a party with a clear manifesto and expecting that party to deliver on it is a fascist mindset?
PR-STV is why the HSE has seen no major investment in the past thirty years, despite the three men who are responsible for healthcare earning the guts of €1 million between them.
People didn't vote for the deal, they voted to get Brexit done, as opposed to more and more procrastination which is what Labour were offering.
But of course, you know that already.
Irelend is the only european one to use PR-STV as far as I know.
Ireland, where every single government function is broken, thanks to PR-STV.
everyday, hundreds if not thousands of people have to boil their water, because Irish Water is unable to provide them with clean safe drinking water. This is in a country that likes to tell everyone how rich it is.
On top of this, thousands of tonnes of raw sewage are dumped every single day into rivers and the sea, because Irish water is unable to treat it properly. This isn't a one off, this is the norm as there is no alternative.
The simple fix was to have Irish water set up as a private company that drew most of its revenue from its customers, so it could then borrow the billions needed to bring the Irish water system out of the 19th century, but no, in a fit of popularism, FF came out against water rates, even though we desperately need them.
So, we have a Victorian water system that is fundementally broken and no way of addressing it, without the government borrowing the money needed, which it can't do because the national debt is already over that which Euro rules allow.
You couldn't make it up.
Exactly didn't they vote for the exact opposite that was called an "oven ready deal"?
This whole idea that FptP somehow gives people better knowledge of what they will get from a government is nonesense.
Do you think people voted in 2019 to have the NIP and Trade Agreement ditched?
People know exactly what they are voting for, this constant refrain from whats effectively a fascist mindset of either I get everything or nothing from voting is just intentionally ignorant now. I voted for FG knowing they wouldnt go into coalition with SF, I didnt vote for FF cus I knew if they had to they would go into coalition with SF, AND iof FG had gone back on their promise i would never have voted for them again. Its not fvcking complicated but you seem to not really be able to understand it. Did you fall asleep in CSPE or something?
Compromise is whats required for a good government. Swinging wildly from left to right constantly makes for a mess of legislation and rules that are constantly being passed and then repealed when the other side arrives to clean up what is in their mind a mess left by the previous government like exactly what happens in the US every 4 years. Having coalitions means that there has to be consensus so things that are passed and done are less likely to be swept aside and a whole new thing is started every election cycle.
Also your still ignoring, intentionally at this stage, that even if FPtP gives that one party you know what your voting for idea, its still a minority who voted for it to happen which is entirely undemocratic, but going back to your fascist dog whistles your probably okay with that.
European ones, like Ireland.
What compatriots that use PR-STV are you talking about?
How well is that UK government doing? Because, compared to its pr-stv compatriots, it's the worst, at least economically, socially and perceived foreign policy.
They're supposed to govern. Not rule.
You can’t rule by committee.
that’s why nothing ever gets done, because no party has the political capital to do anything worthwhile, so they just concentrate on trying to get re-elected.
as I said earlier, PR-STV is why every single government function is broken.
That's true representative democracy. Everyone gits bits of what they want instead of a single party with 40% of the vote running riot for 4 or 5 years.
As much as it pains me to say it the likes of UKIP deserved seats in parliament for the amount of votes they got.
Labour has hard left elements, but are generally centre/left whereas the Tories have a hard right, but are generally centre/right.
thats what you get with FPTP, different elements within a party that form their manifesto and if when elected, they enact that manifesto.
unlike pr-stv which leaves all that manifesto building until the parties form a coalition, so people have no idea what they are voting for.
to be honest i completely forgot about UKIP they were such a joke party and irrelevance ultimately dispite their cult fans trying to swamp everywhere.
There are posters on Boards so up the wholes of right wing US media that they actually think FG, FF and RTE and the Irish "MSM" is all left wing.
They can't do any critical thinking so just copy the phrases and change the parties.
Its Labours fault because they were too useless to stop the Tories.
Oh also. Starmer is useless (until the curry thing when suddenly it would be a huge blow if he left)
Labour are tearing each other apart so can't mount a challenge.
It's the same copied and pasted off the right wing echo chamber bllsht we have been hearing for a few years now.
So the British public overwhelmingly rejected the Tories on 43% of the vote but not, say, UKIP on 0.07% of the vote...
Labour are in a civil war as you call it thanks to FPtP because if the left of the party seperated from the centre of the party, as naturally should have happened years ago to create 2 seperate parties, the Tories would run away with election victories for the forseeable future thanks to FPtP. Its the same reason May had to endure similar party infighting during Brexit negotiations to hold together the centre and the right of the party aka the ERG because if she allowed the party to split they would lose to Labour for the forseeable future again thanks to FPtP.
If the UK had PR-STV both parties could naturally split as they obviously badly need to and stop trying to be these massive overfilled tents for everyone on the left and everyone on the right while they ultimately spend more time fighting about what their party stands for, which both parties are absolutely guilty of, instead of trying to fix what is becoming more and more a clusterfvck of a country.
the only thing the british public overwhelmingly rejected is the tories, actually.
57% of the people voted for non-tory parties, the problem being that the vote was splitbetween multiple parties.
the only majority the tories got was a minority majority, a minority of people who didn't split parties and voted for the same party meaning it was able to get into power because it got a majority of seats via a minority of the vote.
realistically the only reason for that was the brexit vote, anything else was essentially an irrelevance amplified by the hard and far right pretending they were issues when they weren't issues.
brexit and the funny man off the telly AKA borris carried the win, and yes a small bit of people liking being shafted by british conservatism.
but just like trump, people are realising what they voted for, it was a bad blip but one with very serious consequences which may not be so easy to undo.
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