Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Katie Hannon to be fair has raised the affect on social cohesion very early on in this debacle on her late debate and Saturday show.

But your correct, all we get from VMN is an almost nightly Fluff piece and RTE generally only do Fluff pieces to.

British media on the other hand barely have a mention of Ukranian refugees, instead focus on those refugees crossing the English Channel.

Irish newspapers avoiding any talk of discontent, the best we get is meaningless polls that don't ask difficult questions.

You suggesting that posters on boards are people who have feck all else to do or are retired?

You do know that technology allows people from any demographic to access media now at any time? 🙄

Maybe they have lived here for years ?

Citywest Hotel going to be taken over by the State for 2 years according to RTE today.

What will that cost us? 100, 200, 300 million?

It was 50+ million for covid alone to keep it closed to the general public

There is taking in refugees and giving them temporary shelter and there is taking in refugees and giving them the royale carpet. The way they've thrown the money at the Ukranians is a joke. The swagger, outdoor drinking, and lifestyle they are living in Ireland now has turned the majority of Irish people off alltogether. Virtue signallers usually last a week, two tops before they get bored 'with the current thing'. Seeing grown ass men shopping in TK maxx and Argos with their tax money is a real eye opener. More proof the government here doesn't give a f00k about the Irish people, and they wont stop importing more until Irish are the minority.

The old saying "overstaying your welcome" is springing to mind but the Ukranians at least are European, however the sight of grown men having the times of life here is really unsettling and the majority are in agreement here despite the best propaganda of the Irish media to spin things otherways.

Meh, no need, the government will pony up instead- tax hikes n spending cuts incoming.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/tax-hikes-and-cuts-in-spending-needed-to-offset-rising-cost-of-living-states-budget-watchdog-warns-41704652.html

Taking online commentary to read the room would be farcical thats my point. Online commentary on a lot of issues tends to have a small minority of opinionated people who think black and who think white but theres a large cohort of people who dont post their views online. In a lot of cases their thinking is more middle ground gray.

I totally agree, the online discourse is usually very pro or anti a thing (whatever the thing is), in reality this leads to online polarisation.

In reality most are in the centre and can have different positions on many things (am not sure left right really apply here).

But I will say that the government reaction and support for the Ukranians is starting to irk and increasingly large amounts of my circle of friends, those from abroad who have had to jump through hoops, those who are trying to buy but have zero hope and those lucky enough to buy who can't get school places.

Its not anger at the Ukranian people, it's at them receiving things many in Ireland (not necc Irish) have been told aren't possible

Excellent post 👍

I'd take a very cynical view of the Ukranian war (it is and always has ben a U.S. proxy war in a small, eastern park of Ukraine as far as I'm concerned) and I think it is unfortunate that the good nature of a lot of people has been leveraged off to hoist extremely unreasonable demands on the Irish people, particularly at a time when we are underwater, economically speaking and in real danger of having our economy collapsing under the weight of the public expenditure that is going into a black hole (e.g. housing supports designed to prop up existing housing costs, rather than ensuring more supply hits the market). Further, culturally (eastern Ukranians versus Irish) and politically (it is not an EU country and is a very corrupt country), I have been surprised at the pace at which we have taken in Ukranians.

Now when I see the hotel prices being raised to utterly obscure levels and the Citywest hotel scandal, it is clear that the crisis almost seems to be about enriching the asset owners, rather than about helping legitimate refugees and for this reason and the context outlined above, I do not support the Irish government's actions in respect of the Ukranian refugees. If it comes from an EU directive, I would question the EU directive/our continued EU membership considering the decline in prosperity this country is experiencing.