Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

No, it's because Ireland has a long history of virtue signalling, with the taxpayer being made to foot the bill. Irish politicians from the start have been pandering to foreign nations or foreign causes, cap in hand, tugging their forelock and willing to jump through whatever hoop possible so that they receive some "public" acknowledgement or thanks. What comes afterwards doesn't matter because they'll likely be moved on to something else within four years, and it will be someone else's problem to handle.

And.. while the money is being conjured... I wouldn't say that things are being done. They're being deferred rather than finding proper solutions. Putting Ukrainians in hotels is simply deferring the issue until later, probably hoping that someone else will solve the problem for them. We'll see the money being poured into the hands of the property developers, and investment groups that the politicians are so friendly with... and while it is an answer to the Ukrainian crisis, it's a rather expensive and short-sighted one.

The last decade has shown me that, in the eyes of the politicians, non-natives matter more than Irish people. The native Irish are in second place to whatever minority group that comes into this country and begs for attention.

TBH I'm starting to think we need to start forming NGOs and lobbyist groups to promote native Irish peoples rights and concerns.. because there are thousands of NGO groups (supported by the State) out there promoting/seeking preferential treatment for their own members.

The buildup of Russian forces on the Ukrainian border gave the politicians months to prep the population, and encourage a particular type of reaction. Ukraine went from being an unimportant Eastern European nation very close to Russia, to being European and everything associated with that.

the general population swallowed it hook-line-and sinker because they want to believe that Ireland is wealthy.

So what? Zelensky has said or ordered all manner of things while in office, and quite honestly, many of them would be considered the work of an authoritarian government if it was appraised with any kind of unemotional balance. Ireland does not condone conscription, and forcing people to fight... There is no State/Government position that reinforces Zelensky's order, nor any requirement on any EU nation to enforce it... because most nations appreciate that conscription is wrong.

I always find it interesting that women are never considered to be cowards for fleeing a warzone.. just as it seems like women are quicker than men to call someone or accuse them of cowardice.

Very many young men... Rubbish. The statistics don't support such a position, especially considering there was a substantial Ukrainian population in Ireland before the war with Russia. Somehow I suspect they're being lumped together so that the numbers are increased and people can show their outrage.

The stats listed earlier in the thread do nothing to show circumstances. Whether they're the single parent, whether they have a disability of some kind, or whatever. In any case, I find the double standard of judging the males but ignoring the females to be rather significant.. oh, and there were female criminals too.

I'll stick with supporting the helping of all wartime refugees regardless of gender, age, or whatever. If Ukrainians of any background break our laws, then they should be processed, and deported. Kick em out. But until they actually break our laws, their past is irrelevant. (considering the position of the government and the promises made on our behalf)