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Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Mentioned in the Top Gun thread already, but this has been pushed back to a September 30th 2022 opening. Don't think #8 ever had a release date, despite the (apparent) back to back shoot.

    Post edited by pixelburp on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,911 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1



    M:I7 will now be released July 14, 2023 (previously Sept. 2022)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,646 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Title confirmed by Cruise. https://variety.com/2022/film/news/mission-impossible-7-official-title-tom-cruise-1235243504/

    Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,258 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,997 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Discuss: Mission Impossible is the only consistently great long-running Hollywood series, and the new one looks bloody fantastic.

    Steam train set piece. Car chase in a little yellow car. I mean, what else do you want?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,258 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    The only thing I want is for it to release this July 😄



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I'd agree with that. Number 2 was bad, really bad and has aged like milk, but the whole series has been the gold star for Hollywood action blockbusters. Fallout set the bar and would consider it on a par with Fury Road for best in class.

    Now, much of that success' foundation is built on its star's willingness to risk life and limb for the pursuit of increasingly crazy stunts. Even when Cruise did injure himself during the shoot of Fallout, the accident made it into the final cut. But the end result are a set of movies whose action is just unparalleled in American cinema. Once Cruise retires from action cinema, you'd have to imagine that'll be it for the series.

    I wonder what Christopher McQuarrie will do after cos you'd imagine he has opened a good number of doors for himself.

    As for the trailer? Yes please. Looks absolutely stonking. Proper action cinema.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭santana75


    Did Cruise do the motorbike off a cliff stunt near the end of the trailer?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Apparently, yes. Don't have the article but there was an interview that went into it, the logistics of performing it safely.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    I watched that and thought "this has to be a trailer for both parts" but no, just part one. I have to say I agree the M:I series is one of the best action wise but I thought Fallout was overstuffed with action for the sake of it (did they really need to Halo jump to a party in Paris?). I'm slightly concerned this might suffer from the same problem and I also know McQuarrie likes to write on the fly, which again I think showed in Fallout. I still enjoyed it but Ghost Protocol is still the best for me.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,997 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Apparently, they only started seriously filming for part two in Feb/March! That's after spending seemingly a whole year on principal photography on part one (longer if you count the COVID disruptions and hiatuses) and the initial suggestion that they'd be shot back-to-back.

    The budget for the two combined must be eye-watering (closing on $300m for part one alone). But then if ever the money was on-screen during a blockbuster series, it's definitely the MI films.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭santana75


    He's an absolute madman......fair play to him though. When you watch a Tom Cruise film at the very least you're guaranteed there'll be no clumsy stuntman edits.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,646 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Read that article a while ago, it's very good.

    I'd have been happy enough for it to stop at the 'pick a side' line, as everything plus the kitchen sink seems to be shown here. Still, good trailer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I saw the thumbnail and I thought it makes Tom Cruise look like he's pushing on in years (and yeah I know he actually is) but by the end of the trailer I wanted to see this film!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,469 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Love the MI series, all of them have been cracking movies imo, apart from the much maligned 2nd one. That was terrible, but all others have been great.

    I think the 3rd one is still my favourite. The late Philip Seymour Hoffman put in a superb villain performance in that outing and the supporting cast (I think it was Simon Pegg’s first appearance in the series) were all very good too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Oh good, Henry Czerny is in it, might go along to see it so. Simon Pegg looks well rattled from the trailer - wonder was he on the sauce during it's making?

    Every Tom Cruise movie is contractually obliged to see him running headlong someplace.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    Second film was awful. The last fight scene is fairly cringe. Especially the part when he kicked up the gun from the sand and get the perfect shot off whilst the bad guy just looked at him.

    I also enjoyed the third one the best. The rabbits foot.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Watching Mission Impossible 3 with the weight of his subsequent career in the back of my head, we were forewarned early on about JJ Abrams love and obsession for the Mystery Box trope. It was right there from the start



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,469 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Yeah that 2nd film is so so bad. I’ve seen it on TV a couple of times since and it’s aged so badly too. The slow-mo action sequences look incredibly cheesy now and Cruise seems to spend half the movie posing with a silly haircut.

    Thankfully order was restored in MI-3. That’s definitely one of my favourite action movies of the last 10-15 years, elevated by a great supporting cast. I felt Philip Seymour Hoffman was one of the most memorable villains since Hans Gruber. That opening 3 minutes….



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    That is how to do a trailer for an action movie whatever about cruise being a bit of a nut job in scientology the man knows how to do action



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Looks great, minimal CGI, the way it should be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I still like No 2 , its a bit over the top but enjoyable.

    Tom looks good with the long hair and the Soundtrack by Hans Zimmer is probably the best of the franchise.

    Injection is a brilliant composition.


    Mission Accomplished is nice too




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,261 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    For me the issue with MI2 was it just wasn't a good story by Ronald D Moore and Brandon Braga or screenplay by Robert Towne


    It had great action and set peices a stellar cast and John Woo did a good job with all of that but was left with a terrible script to work from.

    And as above the soundtrack is class.

    It set up the franchise and how it would grow and the direction it would go with those set peices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    The script for 2 was bad, yeah. But (Dare I say it) I just don't think 90's Hong Kong gun action suited a western movie. There are certain aesthetics/tropes that are used in Asian action movies of the area that perfectly suit their region but do not travel well.

    The CRAZY OTT gun play, the flashback sequences (Often to something that JUST happened), the extensive Slo-Mo.

    Don't get me wrong, I am a HUGE fan of old-school John Woo and late 80's/90's/early 2000's Hong Kong cinema (I remember having to travel 30 miles to Cork to see Infernal Affairs in a small screen of a small cinema but still delighted- INFINITELY superior to it's remake, The Departed).

    So I love all those tropes. And accept them as a stylistic choice. But they just look a bit silly in a western movie. (Or maybe it's just that they looked a bit silly in MI:2)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Oh come on, we all know M.I:2 was dreadful mainly because the useless Dougray Scott was the villain in it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,083 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    But surely we have to thank MI2 (and Tom Cruise) also then, as they spared us Scott as Wolverine.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Mission Impossible 2 was just across the board bad; never learnt what John Woo himself thought of his work there, but can't imagine he thinks it his best. Though his American films have been generally not-great.

    Now, across the overall series the first sequel stands better among the varying approaches of the 6 films, but at the time it must have been especially jarring to fans of the original's suped-up spin on the TV show. The paranoid euro-espionage tone swapped for the more muscular, douchie swagger of number 2. Watching it again, it's a very early-2000s film in all sorts of ways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,261 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I wonder why Maggie Q & Jonathan Rhys Meyers were never brought back after MI3.

    Meyers personal issues probably played a part with him however Maggie Q was made for this series.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,469 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    I thought they were both pretty good in that instalment too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    The M:I franchise doesn't have a habit of bringing back female characters, Rebecca Ferguson is the big exception. I feel Michelle Monaghan was only brought back to tie up that loose end seeing as there was potential romance with Ferguson's character. That said it looks like Vanessa Kirby is back here and who knows if Atwell will be in both.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,469 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Cruise and Ving Rhames are the only 2 characters to appear in all of them. Interesting that Henry Czerny is back for the new one too, a throwback to the very first movie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    It's by far the weakest of the series though 2 is pretty daft for the most part and Dougray Scott is insufferable in everything



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,469 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    You think MI:3 is the weakest? As I mentioned, its my favourite of the whole lot, its the one I'd re-watch if it turned up on TV! Curious why you think its the weakest? I really hated the 2nd one... for the reasons already mentioned... and I thought #3 was a great revival of the series.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,261 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I wonder will we get a bit of parkour from Cruise in either of these instead of his usual running scenes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Philip Seymour Hoffman can't even save 3


    Ghost protocol is the best for me but I've loved all of them since 2011



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I think Ghost Protocol is the best too.

    The 5th one was also very good, the last one I thought had too much action and not enough plot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,261 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


     Ghost Protocol  was the one that set up the on going storyline that has continued throught 5 & 6 and looks to be going on into 7 & 8.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    I never understood the hatred for Mission Impossible 2.

    Its better than the first film and has the best soundtrack of all the IM films released so far.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    The Limp Bizkiet MI 2 theme is so good I wish they had used it in the MI sequels.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Limp Bizkit?

    🤭



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I can't say I ever felt they used any of the themes enough

    but I dunno.. Maybe there's some art to how much to feed the audience. I was happy with it being used at the end of 1.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Thanks to the YouTube algorithm, I discovered that the train crash from the trailer is, of course, a real train crashing from a cliff. Fantastic.

    Of course it looks like there's some digital airbrushing going on to remove the "joins", replace the ramp with a bridge, but wow. You just gotta love the commitment to old school effects.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    You cant beat real school effects, there is too much ropey cgi in modern films.

    Poor CGI robs media of tension and realism and it is good to see a return to practical effects instead of green screen and CGI.

    The less CGI as possible the better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,261 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I wonder how many times that did it.

    Also a shout out to the folks who have to clean up the wreckage.

    No wonder there are thousands of name in end credits.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I see it crashed into a big pit of water, presumably so it wouldn't get completely destroyed - but drying it off? Fixing what broke anyway? Remounting it to the track? Oof. I'd wanna speculate they had 1 shot at this before it went over-budget. Bet this was workshopped endlessly in an office before they went anywhere near location.

    Apparently, and I forget to look this up if it's true, but there was supposed to be this huge action setpiece during the sequel to Romancing the Stone. Shot at night too for extra logistical insanity. It all went perfectly ... then it was discovered the director forgot to get the cameras rolling.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,792 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    • Apparently, and I forget to look this up if it's true, but there was supposed to be this huge action setpiece during the sequel to Romancing the Stone. Shot at night too for extra logistical insanity. It all went perfectly ... then it was discovered the director forgot to get the cameras rolling.

    Fired so.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    As if we didn't know it already, Tom Cruise doesn't do his stunts by half. A bit of a corny bit, done for a recent Convention, but it only underlines Cruise's commitment to his stunts. Would hate the pressure of being the guy to make sure those straps are OK before take-off. Done on the first take, or did it take a few goes? 🤣




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    There wouldn't be a nappy big enough!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,261 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    That looks awesome.

    I will happily handover my money to watch that on the big screen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Looks like Tom borrowed Indys outfit .



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