Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning

Agent Coulson

Hayley Atwell joins the cast of 7 as they start to shoot the next two back to back.

fluke

Never really dug MI:3 It's fine but feels like a TV movie. Kind of feels like a proto-Marvel movie actually!

El Duda

I watched 3 for the first time after seeing 4 & 5. It has good acting from PSH and a few good moments but it is very tame compared to the newer ones.

One of the big action sequences is just TC running.



Now he straps himself to planes and stuff. Mental.

Unearthly

Thought the third was good and very important to get the franchise back on track from the awful 2nd one which just felt like a very poor James Bond

JP Liz V1

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Hayley Atwell joins the cast of 7 as they start to shoot the next two back to back.

They must be still doing good money at the box office that another 2 is being made, I guess like the F&F franchise epic big stunts and chases and of course Tom running guarantees success :P

pixelburp

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

They must be still doing good money at the box office that another 2 is being made, I guess like the F&F franchise epic big stunts and chases and of course Tom running guarantees success :P

Fallout garnered $791 million off a $178 milion budget, so not too shabby. Also, Cruise isn't getting any younger so it's canny enough to squeeze another couple of MI films outta him before age really does catch up with him. He already broke an ankle during filming of Fallout (as it happens, making the scene look more impactful!)

JP Liz V1

pixelburp wrote: »

Fallout garnered $791 million off a $178 milion budget, so not too shabby. Also, Cruise isn't getting any younger so it's canny enough to squeeze another couple of MI films outta him before age really does catch up with him. He already broke an ankle during filming of Fallout (as it happens, making the scene look more impactful!)

He does a lot of his own stunts, insurance must be high

pixelburp

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

He does a lot of his own stunts, insurance must be high

I suspect there's no insurance involved in these, and that Cruise is stumping his own money - perhaps looping in his Scientology connections (whatever else about them they have deep pockets). There's likely insurance and hazard pay for the crews all right, but it wouldn't surprise me that no firm will insure the actor himself; maybe he has signed some kind of waiver. It's all one step removed from Buster Keaton endangerment, and at 57 there's only so much more of that Cruise can get away with.

mikhail

El Duda wrote: »

I watched 3 for the first time after seeing 4 & 5. It has good acting from PSH and a few good moments but it is very tame compared to the newer ones.

One of the big action sequences is just TC running.



Now he straps himself to planes and stuff. Mental.

I love the third one. The stakes are personal and relatable. Cruise has rarely acted (nor had the opportunity to act) as well as he does in the opening flash forward, begging for his wife's life. Hoffman's villain feels like a genuine threat, something all too many action movie villains fall short of.

The more recent ones are bigger, and I like them a lot too.

Shred

mikhail wrote: »

I love the third one. The stakes are personal and relatable. Cruise has rarely acted (nor had the opportunity to act) as well as he does in the opening flash forward, begging for his wife's life. Hoffman's villain feels like a genuine threat, something all too many action movie villains fall short of.

The more recent ones are bigger, and I like them a lot too.

Yeah, I think the 3rd one might be my favourite. As you said despite the nature of the movies (i.e. like Bond, Hunt will always survive) it really had that edge of the seat unpredictability where the threat felt genuine, it was a brilliant performance from Hoffman.

Dades

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

They must be still doing good money at the box office that another 2 is being made, I guess like the F&F franchise epic big stunts and chases and of course Tom running guarantees success :P

While both are cash cows, I'd give MI a lot more respect as at least it's trying to weave a plot among the action.

Delighted Chris McQuarrie is back, and it does make sense to film two back to back. As mentioned, TC isn't getting any younger.

A pity Henry Cavill won't be about - his character was exactly the new blood the movie needed.

FunLover18

Dades wrote: »

While both are cash cows, I'd give MI a lot more respect as at least it's trying to weave a plot among the action.

Delighted Chris McQuarrie is back, and it does make sense to film two back to back. As mentioned, TC isn't getting any younger.

A pity Henry Cavill won't be about - his character was exactly the new blood the movie needed.

It's funny that you should say "trying to weave a plot amongst the action" because McQuarrie has pretty much admitted that the last two were written on the fly and for me it shows. I enjoyed them both but don't ask me to recap their plots, especially of Fallout.

Dades

FunLover18 wrote: »

It's funny that you should say "trying to weave a plot amongst the action" because McQuarrie has pretty much admitted that the last two were written on the fly and for me it shows. I enjoyed them both but don't ask me to recap their plots, especially of Fallout.

Absolutely true. It was mental how much the plot was winged as production rolled. I'm cool with getting a bit lost as long as I'm getting swept along and enjoying it.

I've nothing against the F&F movies but they are on an extra level of daft; more about biceps and horsepower than shady intrigue.

Sleepy

I tried getting our 13 year old into the series by watching the first movie but, dear god, it's aged badly!

FunLover18

Sleepy wrote: »

I tried getting our 13 year old into the series by watching the first movie but, dear god, it's aged badly!

I really like the first one, it's much more of an espionage thriller than the follow ups which are more action oriented.

Sleepy

Oh, I still enjoyed it but the "bleeding edge" tech needed a lot of explaining. Newsgroups played a key role in the plot and I had to pause the movie and spend about 10 minutes explaining the early days of the internet!

I love them all, can't wait for the next 2, but that scene where the helicopter goes into the Chunnel, didn't look great when it came out and looks 1000 times worse now.

Slydice

(Guadians of the Galaxy/Avengers) Mantis from the Marvel Universe on board for the next two films:

https://twitter.com/PomKlementieff/status/1196845253040525314

SOLD!

Now for theme music!

AND MORE THEME MUSIC!

Agent Coulson

Filming for 7 suspended in Italy due to the coronavirus.

py2006

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Filming for 7 suspended in Italy due to the coronavirus.

Can't believe they've started on the 7th so soon after the last one and while Top Gun too ain't done/out yet.

Dades

py2006 wrote: »

Can't believe they've started on the 7th so soon after the last one and while Top Gun too ain't done/out yet.

7 and 8 back-to-back.

Can't be hanging around with the Cruiser not getting any younger.

Agent Coulson

Dades wrote: »

7 and 8 back-to-back.

Can't be hanging around with the Cruiser not getting any younger.

8 will be about how he saved the world from a virus that was released in China and starts to spreads around the world.

cmyk

Agent Coulson wrote: »

8 will be about how he saved the world from a virus that was released in China and starts to spreads around the world.

Wasn't that MI2? ... Chimera/Corona ; )

Agent Coulson

cmyk wrote: »

Wasn't that MI2? ... Chimera/Corona ; )

Not like Hollywood would regurgitate the same story line over and over again :P

QikBax

I'd rather have Corona Virus than watch MI2 again tbh

mikhail

QikBax wrote: »

I'd rather have Corona Virus than watch MI2 again tbh

Ah now, it's not that bad. Regular flu, maybe.

JP Liz V1

Esai Morales replaces Nicholas Hoult as the villain

branie2

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Filming for 7 suspended in Italy due to the coronavirus.

Hopefully they'll be filming again soon

Hurrache

Sleepy wrote: »

I tried getting our 13 year old into the series by watching the first movie but, dear god, it's aged badly!

My daughter, a bit younger, absolutely loves them, but we didn't watch them in sequence. Started with the later ones as Sky One was showing them weekly a few months back and got around to watching the 1st. Enough to keep her entertained but definitely slower than the later one, but I don't think it aged that badly.

Only one we haven't watched yet is II, I think that's rated 15 as opposed to 12 for the rest.

JoeA3

Hurrache wrote: »

My daughter, a bit younger, absolutely loves them, but we didn't watch them in sequence. Started with the later ones as Sky One was showing them weekly a few months back and got around to watching the 1st. Enough to keep her entertained but definitely slower than the later one, but I don't think it aged that badly.

Only one we haven't watched yet is II, I think that's rated 15 as opposed to 12 for the rest.

Don't bother, its dreadful, the worst in the series by a long way.

MI 3 is still my favourite. Definitely had the best mix of tension, action sequences and a scene-stealing performance from Philip Seymour Hoffmann as the bad guy.

Oafley Jones

JoeA3 wrote: »

Don't bother, its dreadful, the worst in the series by a long way.

MI 3 is still my favourite. Definitely had the best mix of tension, action sequences and a scene-stealing performance from Philip Seymour Hoffmann as the bad guy.

The only positive of that movie is that it gave Hugh Jackman the role of Wolverine. Otherwise it’s ****ing dreadful. The general john wooisms (look doves) The hair. The weird misogynistic streak. Dougray Scott. The pacing. Everything really.

Hurrache

JoeA3 wrote: »

Don't bother, its dreadful, the worst in the series by a long way.

Yeah, I saw it in the cinema when it came out, haven't watched it since. I put the first 20 mins on recently and then skipped out of it.

JP Liz V1

The U.K. government is to exempt some leading U.S. actors, such as Tom Cruise, and crew from its 14-day travel quarantine to allow Hollywood blockbusters to resume production.

The move follows a conversation between culture secretary Oliver Dowden and Cruise last week about restarting filming on the latest “Mission: Impossible” movie. The exemption will allow “Mission: Impossible 7” – starring and produced by Cruise – to restart filming at Warner Bros. Studios Leavesden, near London.

https://variety.com/2020/film/global/u-k-to-offer-hollywood-actors-exemption-from-quarantine-rules-1234698349/

B.A._Baracus

It's funny what money can do.

pixelburp

An industry worth about £15 billion a year, money talks. The UK - well, let's be honest, English - government appears to be throwing caution to the wind with its reopening policy and letting a lot of its guidelines slide. Especially it seems if your surnames are Cruise (Cummings or Johnson )

Psychiatric Patrick

This is a few days old but is interesting.

McQuarrie responding to recent claims that he and Cruise wanted to destroy a protected monument in Poland and that Polish authorities were all for it.

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/christopher-mcquarrie-responds-to-mission-impossible-7-bridge-destruction-reports-exclusive/

A very strange story. Makes me very curious to know who the person is and what job on the movie they wanted.

JP Liz V1

Tom Cruise tore into members of the “Mission Impossible 7” crew for breaching COVID-19 safety protocols, according to an audio recording obtained by The Sun that has gone viral.

https://www.aol.com/tom-cruise-explodes-mission-impossible-090009875.html

Big Gerry

M.I 7 may never be finished.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9255325/Mission-Impossible-filming-UAE-ABANDONED-pandemic-crew-sent-home.html

Agent Coulson

They have stopped filming 7 & 8 back to back now and are going to finish 7 and take a break as Cruise has to promote Top Gun for it's release in July and then return to finish 8.

EoinMcLovin

Will now open on May 27, 2022, Memorial Day weekend, a holiday frame that has been a home for the franchise for its first 1996 chapter and 2000 sequel. Meanwhile, Mission: Impossible 8 is now opening on July 7, 2023 instead of November 4, 2022.

pixelburp

Empire has an article on MI7, and there's a photo I think is spoiling the latest "Tom Cruise tries to kill himself" set-piece; no doubt it'll feature heavily in the trailer (whenever that happens), but for those staying spoiler-free, it'll involve ...

a train

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/tom-cruise-mission-impossible-7-saving-cinema/

FunLover18

pixelburp wrote: »

Empire has an article on MI7, and there's a photo I think is spoiling the latest "Tom Cruise tries to kill himself" set-piece; no doubt it'll feature heavily in the trailer (whenever that happens), but for those staying spoiler-free, it'll involve ...

a train

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/tom-cruise-mission-impossible-7-saving-cinema/

A video went around on Twitter of them filming it, it all looked very relaxed.

Agent Coulson

Filming in the UK shut down for at least 10 days due to a Covid outbreak.

pixelburp

For anyone curious about more details on what death-defying stunt Cruise will attempt this time, apparently at CinemaCon Paramount gave some details; I'm spoiler-texting it just in case some people wanna keep the surprise - though presumably the trailers will have snippets of it.

Spoiler Warning

During Paramount’s presentation at CinemaCon 2021, exhibitors were treated to a 10-minute video detailing Cruise’s latest stunt. This one will see him drive a motorcycle off an actual cliff, jump off the motorcycle in mid-air, freefall a few seconds, and then parachute to the bottom of a huge gorge. And, of course, it’s actually Tom Cruise doing this. Not a stunt person. So he had to practice and train a lot to be able to pull if off.

Over the course of a year, Cruise completed about 500 skydives, which sometimes included 30 in one day, as well as 13,000 motocross jumps on a specially constructed track. All of this was done to make sure Cruise was a complete expert at not just base jumping and parachuting but motocross too. He’d need to be all of those things to pull off the stunt on the day.

Sometimes you really, seriously gotta wonder if Cruise's reach might one day exceed his grasp. This does sound especially dangerous ... but then again so did all the others!

https://gizmodo.com/mission-impossible-7-will-have-maybe-the-biggest-stunt-1847564931

Sad Professor

When most viewers see these sequences they just assume it’s CGI or a stunt man, unless they read the article or watched the featurette on the making of in advance of course. As impressive as Cruise’s stunts are, I am not sure they contribute in a meaningful way to making the action seem more authentic anymore. Rather than demonstrating commitment to the film they just seem to be a way for Cruise to do his rich guy in a midlife crisis thrill-seeking hobbies while also being paid.

johnny_ultimate

I dunno, I don’t think ‘Tom Cruise using studio to work through his lengthy mid-life crisis’ and ‘physical stunts making the film better’ are mutually exclusive. I don’t pretend to speak for every viewer, but the joy of the recent MI films is their sheer commitment to the physicality of the action. Your stomach flips when Ethan steps out of that Dubai tower - few CG action sequences can ever hope to have that same effect.

If I watch a Buster Keaton or classic Jackie Chan film, I am still wowed by the relentless dare devil spirit of those actors. It will never not be impressive to see Chan’s big mall stunt at the end of Police Story. It’s something that’s all but absent in modern cinema - quite rightly for healthy and safety reasons in many cases 😅 But at least there’s one ongoing series willing to push the boundaries of the physical action we’ve seen on screen before. Sure, it might also be Tom Cruise being an obscenely wealthy thrillseeker… but as long as the films are good and the stunts are spectacular, I’ll hold my objections.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117811990#Comment_117811990

I dunno about the first bit; Cruise has rebranded himself as the modern Buster Keaton willing to endanger himself for jollies. I'd have said it's well understood across audiences the MI franchise is about real, dangerous stunt work. While the cinematography has always been such that there's never doubt it's Cruise hanging off the side of that plane, as a for instance. God, It still looks so amazing, precisely because it's authentic.

https://youtu.be/elpUGB9Ap1Y

Sad Professor

Cruise's stunts are going well past the kind of physicality of Buster Keaton or Jackie Chan though or the kind of stunts he did earlier in his career. In the last M:I it was really him flying the helicopter while it was going into a dive. Now how do you shoot that so that audience knows or cares that it's really Cruise? You can see they tried their best but I am not sure it really comes across. Audiences have seen Cruise in similar sequences in the past which would have been mostly blue screen or stunt men and I am not sure what difference it makes if it was really him in a few of the shots.

Big Gerry

Tom Cruise's BMW was robbed in England.

They should make a real life documentary of Cruise trying to hunt down the scumbags who robbed his car.

That would make a better film than another MI.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9931055/Tom-Cruise-thousands-pounds-worth-luggage-stolen-thieves-bodyguards-BMW.html

Big Gerry

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117812293#Comment_117812293

The helicopter scene in MI6 did not impress me at all.

Arnie flying the harrier jet in True Lies was for more impression and that wasn't even real.

I feel they could of done the helicopter scene just as well without cruise flying the helicopter for real.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117812293#Comment_117812293

Again I dunno, I think it was pretty clear it wasn't a stunt man in those scenes, the cameras around the cockpit working to show it was the actor at the wheel. As did the exterior cameras for what was clearly a gruelling climb (presumably harnesses were air brushed out). In this clip you can sorta see the difference between the "on a set", green screen cockpit during the fist fight, and the bright, in situ cockpit when Cruise was flying a real chopper.

But like I said I think the franchise now trades on its audience understanding the stunts are, for intents and purposes, real.

https://youtu.be/14zxmnIDoLs