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Royal Canal on a Road Bike

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭wersal gummage


    Don't mind tree routes or bad surface, some photos online look like there are sections where it passed under bridges and looks like there's about a foot width of room to squeeze under or fall a good drop into the canal?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    You’ll be grand with those tyres in the deep sinking. Just don’t fall in, it’s a bit of a drop!

    Some of the trains to Longford are (or were anyway) commuter trains where there shouldn’t be any hassle with the bikes. It’s the intercities you need to be careful with. The Irish rail website’s journey planner will help you there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Rosahane


    When you do the online booking you can also book seat with a view of your bike. Reality is that the seat bookings are rubbish, they never put the name on the seat. You may get a seat beside the bike - usually happens, or there could be approx 105 randy students crowding out the carriage :)

    So, bring a cable lock just in case and remove anything easily pocketed like lights.That said, I've never had a problem!

    Also, make sure that the chain is on the biggest back ring to keep the derailleur above the rail that the wheel sits in on the rack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Just an FYI Longford commuters only run during peak hours so station staff may deny boarding for them too, more likely at the busier Dublin stations but still a risk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    How many diesel generators are pumping water from rivers to keep the canal topped up??



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,741 ✭✭✭Effects


    You'd have a better idea than us I'd imagine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    If you want to go for the real belt and braces approach then fit the Schwalbe marathon plus and stiick slime filled tubes inside . A bit pricy but practically bomb proof .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭getoutadodge


    "Slime filled tubes inside". Can you explain this? I m about to go get the Marathon Plus as I'm planning on doing the Royal Canal ride to the Midlands in the coming weeks. I cant afford a puncture on the e bike in the middle of nowhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    I am not sure how to add a link to a post but if you Google. “Slime filled bicycle inner tubes “ it should bring you to several relevant sites.

    Basically they are inner tubes that contain a quantity of liquid sealer so in the event you getting a puncture a small amount of this liquid leaks out and seals the leak. A bit like blood forming a clot. In my experience this substance will stop all but the bigger leaks

    The tubes are exactly the same as normal ones and you pump and maintain them in the normal way.

    Another option is if you already had good inner tubes is to buy a can of this sealer, remove the valves, pour the sealer into the tubes, replace valves , pump up and off you go. It’s a bit more messy than simply replacing the tubes.

    As I said originally the tubes are quite expensive but they give great peace of mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    You will loose a small bit of tyre pressure if you get a puncture but can easily pump back up.

    When pumping a tyre with slime inside be sure to have valve in the twelve o’clock position to prevent slime leaking back into the valve and pump.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,741 ✭✭✭Effects


    You can get a liquid that fills tubeless tyres, that seals small punctures. I think people also put that in tubes.

    I tried it back in the 90s and it was just a mess for me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭getoutadodge


    Cool. Never heard of it before. will check it out. Txs!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭getoutadodge


    Btw I presume the best time to hop on these trains (to maximise space likelihood for the bike) out to say Enfield or Mulligar is .... mid week mid morning? I'm plotting the return leg from Mulingar back to Maynooth and then take the Maynooth train back into town. Will do the same for Skerries train soon...with Waterford also in my plans



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,552 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I never had any issues with punctures on Marathon Plus, I regular used a rocky gravel path for shortcuts. The only time I ever got a puncture was from a screw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 wheelsandreels


    fyi bus eireann is much improved in recent years. I cycled down to waterford one day recently and hopped on the hourly service number 4 - I booked it when I was in Carlow and had a better idea of my arrival time and the bike goes in luggage storage which hardly anyone uses - it's €5.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    I don't, I see 3 of them pumping in Abbeyshrule near the airfield. I was wondering if it's like that all over the place. Must cost a fortune. And they stink of fumes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭cletus



    It seems to be an issue in that area, seemingly down to a lack of monitoring of the opening of lock gates, from what I can gather.


    It's not the normal way that canals are fed. They are normally fed from lakes, rivers, fend and similar through feeder canals, sluice gates etc.


    At least, I've been up and down portions of the Royal, Grand, and Barrow Way, and I've never seen pumping of that sort happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭Mundo7976


    There's one near ribbontail that pumps up from the boyne & there's always a big water flow coming in near Mary Lynchs pub, could be off run from the N4 drainage 🤷🏻‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭cletus


    Further to the above post, there seems to be 4 spots where pumping is an issue (so more pumps than I previously thought)


    Here's the relevant piece for Ireland from the above article


    Back-pumping on Ireland’s canals

    Waterways Ireland are looking at improved back-pumping systems at four locations. Richmond Harbour on the Royal Canal has an old pump delivering 225 l/s from the Cramlin River, and the 11.6 kW installation is only 75% efficient. The dedicated pump house will be re-engineered to host two pumps. The Grand Canal is supplied with water from the River Brosna into Shannon Harbour over locks 35-36. Here too, the pumps are old and affected by ongoing difficulties with weed, debris and blockages. An old 1994 pump delivers water from Lough Allen across Drumshanbo and Drumleague Locks to maintain water levels for navigation on the Lough Allen canal. The fourth pumping station is at locks 16-18 on the Grand Canal, where the pumps are relatively new but system controls need to be optimised; variable speed drives could improve efficiency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭getoutadodge


    Update on the Deep Sinking

    I did the Deep Sinking section yesterday to road test some new tyres I got. Contrary to what I posted before this is not suitable for a road bike. The rocks at the first section leaving Castleknock station are a nightmare. There's still a lot of water and mud even at this time of year. Despite having an e bike I had to dismount a lot.

    Btw coming from the 12th Lock at Castleknock where the barges are tied up approaching the humpback bridge... for some insane reason a gate has been placed barring bicycles from going under the bridge to the train station? This necessitates carting your bike up a set of steps. You then arrive at a road which is really busy with cars going both ways. I got so exasperated waiting for a gap or a car to give me a nod to cross (walking with my bike) and none did...so I just barrelled across in a game of chicken style. Madness. The far end of the Deep Sinking comes out at some rail way crossing with tonnes of cars backed up as the gates were down for the train. Then into a dead end cul de sac where the trail effectively ends. I cant see the north side proposal ever happening. Pity because it would also kick Waterways Ireland in the arse re upgrading the canal section to encourage barge traffic.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,737 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas


    I always do greenway starts from Maynooth unless someone tells me the path is fixed from dublin to Maynooth !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    ? Can you not whip the wheel off and change the tube?

    Also curious why an e bike on the Royal Canal - it's as flat as virtually possible for a cycle route.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,741 ✭✭✭Effects


    Maybe someone who wants to do the distance, but isn't physically capable?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭wersal gummage


    Thanks for the update.


    Can I ask, is an e bike a slightly heavy thing and is that part of the issue or is this section just best avoided altogether? Thinking of going it (thr canal) a go tomorrow. Coming from Dublin City centre I don't really know whether to go along the canal from the start and include this section, or just cycle on the road and join the canal somewhere after this section



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭cletus


    For anyone either from the area, or having completed the Greenway; planning on heading out towards Cloodara in a few weeks. The plan is to camp for the night when we get there, then cycle back the next day. The question is, does anyone have a good spot for wild camping, as I don't know the area at all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    It’s doable but not on a road bike in my opinion. You’d want some reasonably thick tyres. I did it in this sort of weather on 35mm slicks before, taking my time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭getoutadodge


    The bike I use is a conversion...so quite light. The section is just not suitable unless you have a mountain bike.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭getoutadodge




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,538 ✭✭✭Gerry


    Everyones take on the deep sinking is different.. some people love the challenge, but its not everyones cup of tea. Its got tree roots, rocks, which you cannot avoid, it is uneven,etc. It is not what anyone would class as a greenway.

    It is doable on a road bike, I've done it in the dry but wouldn't chance it in the wet. Its tough on wheels, you run large risk of punctures.

    On a heavy touring bike with luggage or ebike I wouldn't fancy it at all. but, you can walk it.

    On a mountain bike its great fun.



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