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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,428 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    You might get a bit of money for that TV or maybe gift it to someone.

    If not you might consider taking it to a municipal recycling centre where they will take it with no charge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    And they are not kicking the can down the road? The government have numerous reports on RTÉ. The BAI recently commissioned on from Mediatech (or some such london based organisation), the Commission on the Future of Media has yet to have its report released, the Oireachtas Committee have a full report that is published, in 2002 there was the Snoddy commission etc etc etc.

    But lets say after all these reports and all is said and done and it was agreed that RTÉ would get no extra funding, would you be happy with RTÉ to continue as they are? I am not removing funding.

    For example are you happy that Dee Forbes said that it cost €3m per episode to produce Normal People, but never mention similar type programme e.g Can't Cope Won't Cope that only cost €150,000.

    Are you happy that RTÉ said they wouldn't cut funding to children's content but cut it by 75% with in 2 years of saying that?

    Are you happy they cut funding to Lyric FM but increased funding to 2fm?

    Do you think RTÉ management were right?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    You've already paid for the recycling of the electrical goods, that is attached to the cost of the product, it is NOT FREE.

    https://www.epa.ie/our-services/compliance--enforcement/waste/weee/

    When you buy certain new EEE products, you must pay a small additional charge called a ‘visible Environmental Management Cost’ or vEMC. This is used to pay for the recycling of the product when it eventually becomes waste - WEEE. The vEMC applies to products such as fridges, TV’s and certain types light bulbs. The amount that you must pay depends on the type and size of the product. There is no vEMC for batteries.  


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,428 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    It's like deja vu all over again.

    We have covered this ground before.

    I support the concept of a Public Broadcasting Service and think it should be funded by direct exchequer transfer.

    I just wish the government would wake up and get on with it.

    That would make me happy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,428 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I didn't say it was FREE, I said there was no charge at the recycling centre.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    And it seems as stakeholders "drag their feet" we will continue to be in groundhog day.

    I support licence fee also, but I don't support RTÉ (as an organisation), its board or its management. I have no faith in them to reform following the reform of the licence fee.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭72sheep


    Tragically the age of public service broadcasting is at its end; the RTE license is a complete waste of your money. If this smells to you like a conspiracy theory then you, and your children, are in for interesting times ahead. Sorry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,163 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    It's always worth a refresh of the 'secret producer's' work exposing what a shambles RTE actually is.

    So apparently the only question that we should be asking is: What's the best to pay for this?

    They seem to want direct exchequer funding so they can keep shoving 10's of millions down the toilet, it's just that you won't be thinking about it as much.


    Hey Dee, how about you get the top 10 earners figures out there....cheers Babes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    When Dee Forbes started there was an exudos at the top of RTÉ and a rush to get a new exe board.

    Head of News exited

    Head of TV exited

    Head of Commercial Enterprise exited

    CFO retired just last year

    HR manager made Director

    Head of RTÉ one and 2 made Director but now Marketing and Audience

    while Head of Radio became Head of Content (but I imagine that he's nomially TV with the Director of Marketing and Audiences being head of TV content)

    anyway in all of this a new role was created Director of Operations and Production Services, and given to someone with little to no broadcasting experience, she left in pretty much after taking up the role...

    Now a report shows that she was involved in some property firm around that time, I wonder did she exit due to this?

    All of this has just resulted in jobs for the Girls rather than jobs for the Boys. I see no difference.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Also a lot just asking that RTÉ provide the minimum, News and Sport.

    For the last decade or more RTÉ have being moving in this direction with the exception of Radio.

    RTÉ's strategy seems to be to move content as much as possible to other funders and co-pros. You have the situation where Entertainment takes up 50% of their total independent commissions fund (€20m of about €40), while the other areas of content have seen their funding reduce with the exception of Irish Language programming, largely due to commitments put on RTÉ, but I can see them working with BBC Geailge as time goes on.

    50% of all independent production's funding comes from other sources such as 481, Screen Ireland and co-productions. This brings the funding to around €80m. Indeed soon Drama will just be co-pros and imported Irish produced dramas, actually with the exception of Fair City I don't think RTÉ alone funds any Drama on their own and almost all Dramas are give very little from RTÉ.

    I can actually see RTÉ's "IPU/Commissioning Department" moving over to the BAI, with funding coming from the exchequer and eventually no requirement for RTÉ to have any independent productions.

    They'll then start the push to move RnaG over to TG4, while RTÉ will press to move RTÉ CO over to the NCH along with its sister orchestra the NSO. Again all funding coming from the exchequer, and sure stick Lyric FM on to that also.

    RTÉ is then left with just News, Sport and Radio 1 and 2fm (who needs those pesky digital services really). And RTÉ will happily live alone in Montrose with no one to pander to.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭PieOhMy


    I am a bit unclear how such high level executives could make a decision like this. Its lucky that the union noticed and brought it to their attention before it progressed too far or they may have accidentally strayed into the relm of cronyism making up well paying positions for their friends to fill in a sneaky and underhanded manner! Phew!

    It is of concern to me that this is the type of stunt that gets pulled when money is said to be tight - who is to say things wouldn't get worse in this regard if there was more money to throw around. I certainly don't think practices and culture would improve. Sure its all taxpayers money at the end of day as they say.

    The type of public broadcasting I would like to see is one free of cronyism and vested interests and with open and transparent governance and editorial practices. I don't think that's too much to ask.

    While I believe there are some hard working staff who have some integrity at rte I think that it's current practices and attitudes are irreconcilable with the notions of value for public money and best practices.

    While what constitutes "value for money" in terms of public service broadcasting output is subjective I think that everybody, regardless of personal tastes, can agree that cronyism is not good value for money. Apart, of course, from those who gain from said cronyism. I'm sure they would be very supportive of it.



  • Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ^^^

    They simply failed to ensure that NK Talent Management weren’t hired as the recruitment consultant. 😀

    My experience is that such agencies charge 33% of a years salary as the fee. Plus, in this case, they’d be getting a regular slice of the talent’s salary. Win - win. For them, anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Staff assistant executive director for content, wouldn't think that they would not have an agent as they are not on screen "talent".

    I'd also point out that RTÉ had made up the position of "Director of Operations and Production Services" for an external appointment with no open competition.


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  • Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My contribution was, in the main, supposed to be ironic….. you’re right, of course.

    The whole thing still stinks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    RTE doing a musical about the Toy Show. Will be part funded by licence fees. PSB my arse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So you won't be paying 80+ euro for you and your family to go?

    @political analyst am I right to say that there was no 9 news on Saturday night due to Eurovision?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Yes I really can't understand it, does their mandate permit them to engage in a fully commercial enterprise like this? Does BBC have fee paying musicals? Surely such a move would require ministerial approval.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    No AFAIK RTÉ are allowed to utilize their brands as they see fit. I assume that the brand has been franchised out, much like the PJ's in Pennys.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly



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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Not in recent years when they didn't air late news bulletins on Eurovision night - and I assume it was the same last Saturday. The only time when the news was shown at 9 on Eurovision night was when it was on RTÉ 2 on the day of the same-sex marriage referendum result.

    I know that the fall of the Iron Curtain brought many new participants to the Eurovision Song Contest but I thought that the semi-finals were meant to whittle-down the number of entries in the final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Break up of larger states I think former Eastern European countries did enter the competition, Yugoslavia for example where there from the 60s, while Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, Serbia and North Macedonia are the new states that formed enter the competition.

    I think its a max of 25 for the final, but all countries vote in the grand final.

    When was the last time they had a late night news following the Eurovision.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    I think the last time there was a news bulletin on RTÉ 1 after the Eurovision final was in 2016.

    2020 doesn't count because that was a mock Eurovision contest (the news was broadcast shortly after 10), given that the genuine contest was cancelled for obvious reasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,428 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I can't remember back to 2016 but I did notice the BBC had News at 3.45pm on Saturday and then again after Eurovision.

    I suppose if there was some serious breaking news it would have been covered by all outlets.



  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    There was FA Cup Final coverage on BBC 1 at 4 PM last Saturday. Interestingly, on Christmas Day, on which there is no BBC regional TV news service, and given the fact that all viewers in the UK can watch the BBC News Channel, BBC 1 had only 2 short bulletins at 1 PM and 11:50 PM in addition to the Breakfast programme that is simulcast on the News Channel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,428 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    It was an unusually busy day for them they ran from the cup final into the song contest related quiz then into the song contest proper at a gallop.

    Christmas Day is more of a set piece with footage of the royal family going to church etc.

    I'm sure the newsrooms are staffed to allow for the unexpected though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Very unlikely that RTÉ would have carried breaking news, they have just axed their 4pm News during the day. I am sure, sure they have good reason and money will be saved by not having a 5 minute bulletin !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,428 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I didn't mean ordinary breaking news like a shooting in Dublin or a multiple fatality RTA.

    I was more thinking of a plane crash at Dublin Airport, a high profile sudden death, that sort of thing.

    Things like that and the budget goes out the window, it just has to be covered.

    I don't watch RTE during the day so I didn't miss 4pm news.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So if RTÉ didn't broadcast during the day then it doesn't matter to you at all, many people on here have literally stated the same thing, on this thread for their reasoning for not wanting to pay the TV license.


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  • Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I’d say that RTÉ would have trouble finding someone to front it up over a bank holiday. Most 24h organisations have a rostered “lead” on call to deal with such a massive issue from a communications perspective.



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