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AEW - All Elite Wrestling (*Spoilers for Latest Show*)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    I'm beginning to think that MJF's eventual face turn will be him ripping up a WWE "contract" in the middle of the ring after all the months and years of making people wonder will he or won't he. And maybe take the World Championship off Punk. Would get some pop I'm sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,009 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    I think some of it was cos of the Punk MJF feud a few months ago, but then the boos got louder when he had a Tavares jersey on. Tavares is hated in Long Island now after he left them in FA a few years ago. It'd be the equivalent of the hate Figo got when he left Barcelona for Madrid, or if someone like Gerrard moved to United during his playing career. Punk being known as a major hockey fan too and it coming in as cheap heat back in December when Punk and MJF were feuding plays a part too I think.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    I wouldn't be so sure it's a total work, I mean what MJF says is true, there are new ex-wwe guys who don't bring in any more ratings than he does, who are probably on more money than him.

    When MJF was signed he wasn't famous, so it's quite likely his current contract isn't great and he feels like he should be paid more. But since it only runs out in 2 years he'll want that pay increase now. From Tony's side he'll only want to agree to a pay increase if he can lock MJF down to another long contract, which MJF mightn't be so keen on.

    It's probably in both their best interests to sort it out and I'm sure they will and then it will all be presented as a work, but right now, I' not sure it really 100% is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    Agree with the comment but why's Kahn a clown ? I mean seems like such a petty insult to throw in there



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If Cesaro was the Joker, I'd love for him to get the TNT title and do an open challenge every week (Danielson would be brilliant as well). Make it feel important again.

    The title is crap for the last while with Scorpio and Sammy + Cody winning it multiple times.

    Cesaro/Danielson (or tbh there's plenty on the roster that could do it) having a long run and defending it against different people every week in open challenges would be great. Eventually when someone beats them, it would be a big deal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,284 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Has the Joker in these things ever been an existing roster member or is it always a new signing? Maybe there was a return.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think it's always been a new signing.

    AEW is in Texas this week and Athena is from Texas so I think she's nailed on to be the Joker on the womens side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    I'd love Miro to come down in the middle of one those Sammy/scorpio segments and batter the lot of them it's the worst part every week and they've ruined the TNT title with it



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Still not sure what they are doing with whose face/heel between scorpio and Sammy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,951 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    It's a bit of a joke alright. Ethan Page then, the one with the most upside of them all is stuck as Scorpios side kick. Hope he batters him and takes it, or better yet Miro comes back and batters them all.



  • Registered Users Posts: 573 ✭✭✭nazmoalex


    Bit behind here as I only got around to watching Dynamite last night. Thought it was the best episode in a while, it just ran a lot smoother than previous ones.

    MJF was great playing up to the crowd on his entrance. Enjoyed that whole segment. JR is ok with me, but christ Regal threw a left and he called it a right hand..

    Hangman seemed lost on commentary, and looked weak just throwing the bird up as well.

    Adam Cole had a decent match, but I don't buy him as main guy for a second, hopefully when Omega comes back he squashes him.

    Darby got shafted giving Jeff the win, for some reason I thought maybe his legs were supposed to get stuck in the ladder for the pin, why else would they leave the ladder there?

    Aubrey... jesus she nearly got flattened by Nese getting in the way, and she did in again in the women's match. She's been at it a while now, thought she might improve but she's just getting worse.

    Looks like Christian is gonna turn soon, would love to see Jungle boy turn too and just dump Luchasorearse

    Again might seem super negative, but like I said best episode in a while and I enjoyed it overall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,982 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Feels like they had no choice but to turn Sammy prematurely, since the crowd hated him. Think they're just trying to keep it going long enough to do Men of the Year and VanZant Vs Kazarian, Sammy, and Tay. And then they can have the lads go their separate ways with all of Scorpio, Page, and Sammy as heels, and maybe continue a fued with VanZant and Tay off on the side.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    I'd be happy to see miro as the joker, him and Joe could have a great match, you could have Jay or sonjay cost Joe the match



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,624 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I'm only getting to watch AEW Dynamite and Rampage

    A very enjoyable Sunday viewing, particularly Dynamite was awesome

    I loved the The Dark Side of the Ring segment, that was just brilliant, one of my favorite parts of the show

    I also laughed at the Ass Boys + Acclaimed segment, looking forward how this group goes and they could be quite funny

    MJF is probably one fo the best things in Wrestling at the moment and I'd be quite shocked (even more so than Cody) if he goes to WWE, he'll be so sterilized he wont be the same but money talks I'm afraid



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,624 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I have to say this is quite funny




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,284 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Don't know why Billy didn't like any of his sons' suggestions. Seemed like good original ideas to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,284 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    So there was a title match on this week's Elevation. It was for the RoH Women's title. So from a quickly put together main event title match on Dynamite to being main event on Elevation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,009 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    You've the ROH Pure title being defended on Dark too



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,284 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Yeah just saw that. Wasn't even the main event. Chaos Project in a main event over a title match.

    When I first saw Clark Connors in that interview I was thinking shouldn't he be just clinking bottles and saying "Factory, come out to play"



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    MJF reportedly is not the only AEW talent feeling some level of discontent right now.

    It was recently reported by Fightful Select that MJF was actually leaning towards leaving AEW in 2024 when his contract is up. Also adding that his comments when he mentions that he’s interested in WWE are not a work.

    This of course has led to a lot of speculation from fans, including the futures of other AEW talents, questioning how happy/unhappy they may be and things like that.

    In a recent report from Voices of wrestling, they have given some insight to what they have heard regarding the atmosphere backstage in AEW:

    In other AEW news, on the heels of multiple Fightful reports regarding MJF’s displeasure with his current contract situation, a source from the AEW locker room tells us that MJF is hardly the only talent feeling some level of discontent, describing the backstage atmosphere as “chaotic” with a lack of structure, with common complaints ranging from not knowing angles or finishes until close to showtime, and things like redundant finishes and angles to set up matches being very frustrating.

    “Every single one of us is pulling our hair out”, according to one source. While not on the same level of WWE issues like Monday Night RAW often being rewritten day of or even on the fly as the show is airing, we are told that AEW is not all sunshine and rainbows on gameday as some may perceive it to be.

    – Voices Of Wrestling

    I wonder will Khan eventually bring in someone to help him with booking etc? You'd have to get burned out at some stage doing it all yourself. Now with ROH added as well, definitely think he should have went down the WWE/NXT route (with Triple H running NXT) and have someone else run ROH for him.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    I've had the feeling for a long time that Tony Khan is spreading himself very thin between 3 full-time jobs (AEW, Jags, Fulham) and that he's gonna have to do a lot more delegating and let lose some control to be more effective at all 3. As I recall, QT is part of the team that books/agents the shows with the likes of Jerry Lynn, Dean Malenko and Dustin Rhodes - all well tenured and respected I think it's fair to say, but when you're outside looking in, it's hard to know who's doing what exactly and how. It's easy to see how there'd be frustration in that sort of environment too where there's 1 major chokepoint and everything starts backing up when it's blocked.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Apart from MJF/Wardlow (which I'd still argue though is just following the usual MJF feud playbook) the build up and storylines for the double or nothing matches has been really below par. Punk/Hangman has been bad (Hangman heel promo was bizarre) and Rosa/Deeb has been especially awful. The matches will probably deliver like always at the PPV but storylines really need to be better imo for DON and beyond. They still have 2 weeks to do something for this PPV.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,496 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Athena is currently streaming on twitch (going by people on twitter) so doesn't look like she'll be the Joker.

    No idea now who it's going to be tbh. Don't think it'll be Candice because she only had a baby.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Don't like Ember/Athena at all. Bland as they come. Tegan Nox in the same boat. Mia Yim too.

    Out of the free agent women around, Candice is the most entertaining. She was funny in The Way.

    It's a shame Dakota Kai's no compete isn't up. She's good too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Miro has been working on a TV series that's why he hasn't been around since recovering from his injury.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Pentecost




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,284 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Going by that it looks like it'll be guest star for a single episode.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,009 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Some people were saying Maki Itoh would be the women's one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Athena say Kairi would be a great pick as the joker for a short term deal.

    And an NJPW male for the Joker on the mens side.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I was thinking someone like that but supposedly Khan said on the radio today that it'll be debuts but tbh he might have worded it wrong or forgot she was there before.

    The men's joker is interesting because I think we can all see a mile away that Jay Lethal will cost Joe the match so it would be a **** way for Gargano/Cesaro to win a debut match. I'm leaning towards it being someone from NJPW or Impact now.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Never thought of Kairi but probably unlikely. That would be great though!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,009 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Can't imagine Stardom leaving Kairi do it when she'd be just losing to Britt. I think she's doing something for Hana's memorial show too next week so can't imagine she'd fly just for a quick match and loss.

    Has to be someone who's good with losing a match which really narrows down the options.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Well Stardom have asked for both Britt & Rosa to come over for a show in Japan.


    It more than likely isn't Kairi tonight however I would expect Kairi to appear at some stage.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think it's telling as well that Khan hasn't really hyped the jokers like he usually would for surprises/debuts.

    This definitely makes me think it's Maki Itoh and she's someone Britt can beat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,009 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    I don't see why Stardom would want Britt at all. Shes nowhere good enough in ring to hang with anyone in Stardom.

    Stardom are likely more interested in likes of Hayter and Storm as they're ex Stardom anyway, and can wrestle their style, and Giulia wants Tay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    CJ Perry vs Britt

    Harry Smith vs Joe



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    Johnny Elite!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,951 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    Takeshita is something else, banger of a match. His upcoming PWG match will be insane.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    Kyle O'Reilly's chest looks like he was in a car crash after that match, it was really good, glad there was no outside nonsense.

    It's been a good episode so far. Setting up a 3-way for the tag titles is cool and the Christian/JB split moves ever closer. Very curious to see who Britt's opponent is gonna be now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,951 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    The arse really fell out of the episode as soon as the women's match started. I love Maki Itoh's whole gimmick but despite an initial decent pop the crowd were mild enough on it for most of it. Weak Deeb promo yet again, and Adam Cole is overexposed. I like him but wish he'd mix it up a little as it's been the same thing for a while now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,009 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Ya, Cole needs to be rotated out until it's sooner to Kenny's return when they can do the BC Vs Elite angle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Glad Joe beat Elite clean, thought it was a bit mad to see people complaining about the Lethal interference finish that everyone could see coming before the show had even happened!

    Hangman and Takesh*ta was so good, no surprise with the ace of DDT involved.

    Starks spot on with the Rex from Toy Story shout, that three way could be great, hope Starks and Powerhouse get the win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,496 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭kksaints


    That's becoming a recurring trend with Dynamite, very good to excellent first half of the show but a middling to very poor second half of the show. Also the first match on Dynamite is nearly always far more important and better quality than the traditional main event of the episode.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Abortion Rights Are Human Rights!

    Punk deserves an Emmy & Golden Globe for wearing that t-shirt on a live scripted TV show.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    A moment is comin where Wardlow snaps free of those handcuffs, and I hope the pop is massive. I loved how he shrugged off the lashes. Proper monster baby face vibes.


    just very curious to see how they handle him after MJF and what his next program is.



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