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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2


    India stopped exporting grain because of the heat wave.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭swiwi_




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭paul71


    There is a heat wave in India, and yes that has effected their harvest but that is not the only reason they have banned export. They have banned exports because there is a heatwave AND the worlds largest exporter of grain has been cut off from most of their own ports.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2


    ...

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Technically there is nothing to stop NATO or others escorting Ukrainian freighters out of the Black Sea, Russia has not declared war or declared a blockade of Odessa, Odessa can be reached without entering Russian waters and there is precedent for such interventions. The political will to take such a risk is not there but if food shortages seem a reality, that risk will become one worth taking.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭paul71


    That is true, and we yet see that happen, but it still does not get wheat 850km from East Ukraine to Odessa in south west Ukraine. Grain that would normally have gone to Crimea or Maripol. Nor is it likely that 1 port has the capacity to handle the volume.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,843 ✭✭✭✭josip


    A lot of posters don't seem to follow this thread, but come on to dump something they found that's already been posted 2, 3 or sometimes ever more times. [End moan]

    Up north, the Russians are still lobbing shells onto border villages, presumably from the other side of the border. At what point in time will this no longer be tolerated by the Ukrainians and they have to use their M777s to enforce a no-man's land on the Russian side of the border and keep the Russian artillery out of range?

    https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/16-may-russian-army-shelling-chernihiv-region-with-mortars



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭dasdog


    One of the key tactics employed by the Vietnamese when fighting America. The jungle made evacuations even more difficult and presented secondary opportunities to attack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2


    This is probably to keep UA forces in the north and prevent them from joining the eastern forces.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Here's the google translate link, Hope it works.

    Some of the text:


    No one will meet the Russian army with bread, salt and flowers in Ukraine.It seems that the events in the south-east of Ukraine in 2014 did not teach anyone anything. Then, after all, they also expected that the entire left-bank Ukraine, in a single impulse and in a matter of seconds, would turn into Novorossia. We have already drawn maps, estimated the personnel of future administrations of cities and regions, and developed state flags.

    But even the Russian-speaking population of this part of Ukraine (including such cities as Kharkov, Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, Mariupol) did not support such plans in their vast majority. The project "Novorossiya" was somehow imperceptibly blown away and quietly died.

    Sometimes it is asserted in the Russian expert community (by fans of the Douai doctrine) that since the hypothetical military operations in Ukraine will take place under the conditions of complete dominance of Russian aircraft in the air, the war will be extremely short and will end in the shortest possible time.

    At the same time, it is somehow forgotten that the armed formations of the Afghan opposition during the conflict of 1979-1989 did not have a single aircraft and not a single combat helicopter. And the war in this country dragged on for as much as 10 years. The Chechen fighters did not have a single aircraft either. And the fight against them lasted for several years and cost the federal forces a lot of blood and casualties.

    Now with regard to the assertion that Western countries will not send a single soldier to die for Ukraine.

    It should be noted that this is likely to be the case. However, in the event of Russia's invasion, this does not at all rule out massive assistance to the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the collective West with a wide variety of weapons and military equipment and bulk deliveries of all kinds of materiel. In this regard, the West has already shown a consolidated position, unprecedented until now, which, it seems, was not predicted in Moscow.

    There is no doubt that the United States and the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance will begin a kind of reincarnation of Lend-Lease, modeled after the Second World War, there is no doubt. An influx of volunteers from the West, which can be very numerous, is not ruled out.

    In general, there will be no Ukrainian blitzkrieg. The statements of some experts such as “The Russian army will defeat most of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 30-40 minutes”, “Russia is able to defeat Ukraine in 10 minutes in the event of a full-scale war”, “Russia will defeat Ukraine in eight minutes” have no serious grounds.

    And finally, the most important thing. An armed conflict with Ukraine is currently fundamentally not in Russia's national interests. Therefore, it is best for some overexcited Russian experts to forget about their hatred fantasies. And in order to prevent further reputational losses, never remember again.


    Bloody hell, this guy nailed it pretty much to the letter four months ago. 😮 I doubt he was alone in these notions. How dumb was putin and his minions. Clearly this guy's memo never reached them. Or their hubris was that high.

    I have near zero expertise and even I could see from very early on and before we saw how ramshackle many of the Russian forces could be that this was no walk in the park and I couldn't understand why putin was gunning for Kyiv. Like I said back then if he'd "just" invaded the Donbas with his combined forces he would have taken it, at least for a while. Even with heir fcukups they have taken a goodly chunk of it as it is. Invading was moronic and has fcuked Russia, but IMHO his run for Kyiv was his biggest tactical and strategic mistake.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Posts: 25,917 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    While I treated his appearance on TV with scepticism as he could've been angling for a ramping up (and he may still be used for that) he was very much on the button and doesn't seem to talk about expansionist plans etc. with any kind of fondness. A military man who doesn't want to fight for the sake of it is a good person to have near power.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,162 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If Russia keep downsizing their objectives like this, they may eventually achieve one of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Jumping on a belated bandwagon? Important to be on the right side at the close.

    Particularly when the USA is a supporter of your state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, they can and do carry that kind of weight. They use much bigger trailers with more axles, and its not unusual to see a truck pulling two trailers. Nothing like an Australian road train, but in emergency, that would be possible too, I'd say. And in Ukraine, the main roads are good, same as in Russia. Its when you go off the main roads you could meet problems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,833 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I'd say a hell of a lot of the higher ups in Russia knew the truth. The problem is that in an authoritarian state, you never tell the boss something he doesn't want to hear.

    Although, with the scale of corruption there, and the amount of money that was allocated to the military, that went missing, they might have other reasons for not telling him.

    (Edited because I made a really dumb mistake in what I was saying)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2


    Severodonetsk is the next critical battle Severodonetsk - Twitter Search / Twitter

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    I strongly suspect the Russians are going to break deals and do something nasty with the Azovstal POWs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Could also give Ukraine some expert advice if they ever feel the need to murder reporters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭hayse




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Even if only temporary,,,,,,,,because these are the only kind of gains Russia is going to get in Ukraine. Slava Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭jackboy


    It’s highly likely they are being tortured so it may be difficult for Russia to do a swap. They may do a swap with reduced numbers and just execute the rest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    I sincerely hope the russians will appreciate that any mistreatment of the Azovstal POW"s means they will incur the wrath of the Ukrainians



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,514 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I guess the penny is starting to drop as to just how bad the military situation is. How can Russia 'win' anything against a bigger and far better equipped army? No amount of propaganda or angry Russian nutcases shouting from the podium on some of these TV shows can cover it up. It's notable just how subdued the atmosphere was on this programme, a sense that reality is starting to sink in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    Russians even put Z on a dog

    Such a beauty came to the front line to the frontier guards. Beasts in human form marked it with their symbol😡

    But the dog crossed the front line to the side of good



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Amazed they didn't kill it or eat it. Multiple reports of Russian soldiers doing both in Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Extraordinary turnaround from 3 months ago




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    And still didn't hit one aircraft

    So much for the mighty S300 the unstoppable Russian anti-aircraft system,

    Now if the Israelis feel a threat they will remove it , Russians have to relise Israel has the ability to remove them from the Middle east all together



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick



    It's only a couple of weeks ago we were reading about and seeing horrific pictures of Ukranian civilians who were captured and tortured, some of which were later returned with toes, feet, legs or arms amputated. That's not to mention the many, many thousands who've been tortured to death and mutilated throughout Ukraine, and particularly in Bucha, plus the thousands of horrendous rapes of children.

    As the Russians see the surviving Azovstal soldiers (whether wounded or not) that have just been removed from the steelworks complex, as "Nazi's", I really do fear the worst for them. If they can do such terrible things to civilians, women and children, then God only knows what they will do to Ukrainian army members who've been fighting and killing them.

    Having survived for all that time in truly dreadful conditions, starved and bereft of hope, I dread to think what horrors await them now they're in Russian hands.

    I truly pray that this prisoner swap that's being mooted does in fact come about. If Putin's army from hell tortures and kills those Azovstal survivors then I no longer care about prisoner of war "etiquette" being maintained on the Ukraine side, and if Russian prisoners were thereafter to be hung, drawn and quartered and mailed direct to the Kremlin in thousands of small gift boxes, I wouldn't so much as raise an eyebrow.



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