Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Precisely and some seem to bizzarely think a MC holder can just pop into any GP for care.

Once Ukrainian “men” started arriving I was turned right off this. There’s simply no way able bodied Ukrainian men should be allowed rock up here and claim full welfare entitlements or get work visas outside the previous agreed parameters.

Sums up the whole thread really. 95% crazies.

Quite finished with your soapboxing and self-righteous assumptions?

Do you know how many Ukraine men are here? Link if you do.

Do you know the age breakdown of any Ukraine men who are here? Link if you do.

Do you know the health conditions of any Ukraine men who are here? Link if you do.

How many Ukraine refugee men have you personally met?

Give me the answers to the above questions and then you have a conversation starting point. Until you do then you have nothing except malicious supposition.

It's already been pointed out on the thread numerous times that ALL UKRAINIAN MEN are enrolled in the war effort, and cannot leave the country. Exceptions to this would include minors, the elderly, those with serious health conditions and perhaps a few who have responsibility for entire families where the womenfolk have been killed. So these are the men your disgusting vitriol is aimed at.

Carry on. You're a complete embarrassment to yourself as well as everyone else.

Steady on now, it's highly doubtful DFA or any government agency would supply such information but surely you seen news reports, Articles, indeed TV programs and of course the infamous video of the Kasmir 4 and only yesterday an entire flag ship RTE radio program taken up by a Ukranian Male who flew in from Miami, no less, who's only ailment appeared to be poor mouth syndrome.

My own suspicions started early on when Claire Byrne live interviewed one chap who was no older than late 20"s.

Whilst I'm not doubting some genuine cases, medical exemptions it is as clear as day there's a large number of Male Ukranians, indeed non Ukranians (covered by the EU directive) that have entered the country and to pretend otherwise is just absurd.

You're simply talking about isolated instances.

So what if there are a dozen or even 50 or so able bodied males here. You don't know the reasons why they have been allowed permission to leave Ukraine. And it must be very good reasons as ALL MALES who were deemed of fighting age could not leave the country at all. They would have required special documentation issued by the Ukrainian government. And in any case, even if they could get out of the country then they're still entitled to come here as they are still classed as refugees.

This thread is just one great big whingefest. Oh, I saw it in the papers. There is a Ukrainian man here, I read about it.

Anyone would think there are thousands of men here instead of the reality that approximately 99% are women and children.

Be as snarky and sarcastic as you want but unless you've got concrete proof that Ireland is being overrun by able bodied Ukrainian males then you can join the club of fantasists on here.

Yep….A GP change has to be approved … I toyed with the idea but I didn’t choose to go that route in the end but did lots of research..HSE need to approve it.

a person who hasn’t got a GP … such as a person just coming to the country in whatever situation, refugee or to live and work…. A GP is under no obligation to accept them, a doctor will be requested by the HSE to sign a document to accept them, but it’s at that doctors discretion as to whether they do or do not accept them…

My surgery was a very good surgery with very competent and proactive doctors, was 4 now 6 GP’s… including one part time GP with the owner of the practice due to retire I’m told next year…yet still from picking up the phone it could be 5/6 working days before you can see a GP and it isn’t always going to be ‘your’ GP….

my surgery.. one of the partners in fact my GP going by stuff in the media and their Twitter is left of left wing, he is a political activist … he’s very pro refugee / asylum seeker… and it wouldn’t at all surprise me if they will accept another 150-200 patients further adding to the chaos of trying to get an appointment a timely and responsible fashion….

” I’m not feeling well, I’d like to have a consultation with Dr. Nolan “

” Sorry to hear that, the next free appointment is in a week “

” but I’m sick, I feel unwell “

” ummm, yeah you said but how does next Friday at 4.30 sound, it’s all we have”…

not great… you’ll see lots of utilisation, of the likes of private facilities such as Charter Medical and walk in clinics….

Twitter, I know but surprised about the mostly one sided nature of the comments. Feel as with alot of things pushed by FG they have seriously misunderstood the public on this