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Mel.b and the BYD Atto 3 (Australia)

  • 11-05-2022 10:17am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭


    Hey everyone,

    I thought you all might like to hear about another EV option, especially as I imagine the BYD range will be available in Ireland & the UK at some stage

    I used to post on here a bit back when I had my leaf (2017-2018). This is a thread I had about importing my leaf from the UK back to Co.Clare - https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057755979/bringing-my-leaf-back-from-the-uk-a-500km-trip#latest. Sadly, I left Ireland in mid 2018 and moved back to Australia, where I've been waiting to get another EV ever since. Australia is a bit of a EV wasteland due to a horrendous lack of political will from the current federal liberal government (hopefully that will change in a few weeks with our election). All of the available EV options were too expensive (leaf 40kwh version starts at 50K (all prices in aud), standard range Kona 60K) or essentially unavailable - we only get 500 units of both the EV6 and Ionic5 per year and there is a 3year waiting list for them. Grants for EVs are currently minimal - in VIC where I live a $3000 rebate is available, and to add insult to injury there is an EV users road tax of 2.5c per km😮

    If you're interested, this is the list of all EVs available in Australia at the moment - it's pretty small https://myelectriccar.com.au/evs-in-australia/

    Despite all of that I wanted to get back into an EV. I didn't want a leaf as I have concerns about the battery degradation long term in the warmer weather we have here and the MG was out as I wanted something with 350km real world range. There had been lots of talk about the BYD brand from China and that Australia would be their first place to release their RHD EV's. Initially it was meant to be the Dolphin, which is a hatch back and there was talk of it being 'well under 35K'. The BYD brand is being distributed in Australia by a company called EVdirect. EVdirect then announced that instead of bringing the Dolphin to Australia first they were switching to the Yuan Plus, which is now called the Atto 3. (It has been said that all BYD cars in Australia will be an ATTO with a number, so the Dolphin when it comes will be the ATTO 2 (or 1)). The information and expectation was that the price would be around 40K so I was pretty excited.

    The Atto 3 was launched in Feb and there were a lot of upset people (me included😅) when the price was revealed to be almost 45K + onroad costs of about $3000 in VIC for the standard version (50kwh version) and $47K + onroads for the extended range (60kwh). White, grey and blue were only available for order on launch, so the price, combined with the lack of red colour meant I didn't place an order. First cars are expected to be delivered in July.

    Here is the link to the EVdirect website with all the info about the Atto 3 - https://evdirect.com.au/atto-3

    There currently aren't any Atto 3's available for test drive in Australia (they should be ready in June), however there is a LHD available in the showroom in Sydney to have a look at. I had a trip to Sydney planned, so the showroom was visit was a must. The interior of the Atto 3 has been very polarising, however the more I looked at photos of it, the more i actually liked it and thought other cars looked bland and boring when I looked at them. Two of the most polarising things I think are the guitar strings for the door pocket holders and the door arm rest that reminds me of a wrench for some reason. I found that when I was in the car I didn't even notice these things as they are mostly hidden, although my nephew had a great time with the guitar strings when I pointed them out to him. If i had kids I think I'd be finding a way to remove them 😂

    The showroom also had a Dolphin available to look at. The dolphin had been my first preference due to it's size (currently driving a Jazz and while I'd like a SUV I don't need one, or one the size of the Atto 3). However it was a lot less comfortable than the Atto 3 and the rear seats don't have 60:40 fold (although spec for Australia haven't been confirmed for the dolphin) so that put me off it, as did the fact it was likely to only come with a 44kwh battery pack (although apparently it is very efficient). So showroom visit was good, but still no red available to order and I was still reluctant to part with that much money.

    I started looking at other cars (ICE and hybrid) and discovered that I was now looking at at least 35K for what I wanted in terms of spec as a lot of the cars had gone up considerably in price in the past 12months. This lead me back to thinking about the Atto 3 as spending another 10k was really just pre-paying my petrol for a few years. I have a 13.3kw solar system installed on my roof at home, so I anticipate that I should be able to do most (all) of my charging for free.

    That brings me to this week when EVdirect announced that red Atto 3s were going to be available to order starting today, for (anticipated) delivery in Oct. So after much debating again, I have put in my order😊 I'm still a little hesitant, but the deposit (1K) is fully refundable right up until you sign the contract. My hesitations are around price (it's still a lot of money!), range still somewhat unknown (they say 420km WLTP, so if I can get 350km I'll be happy) and the size of the car. I really like the look of the cupra born and the hatch suits me, but it looks like it is going to be delayed to 2023 for Australia now and I expect it will be 60K+ so that's out of my price range.

    Anyway, I'll keep this updated with progress, such as when I take a test drive, reviews etc. Feel free to ask me any questions and I'll do my best to answer them!

    Here are some pics of the Atto 3






Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,310 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Ah Australia. Always so backwards. The people were lovely do. I remember being there in 2010 and could not believe how little green technologies there was there. Very few solar panels even do they get loads of sun did not make sense. It just seemed like such a wasted opportunity. I am sure it has changed now.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭budhabob


    The Atto3 is a nice looking car in all fairness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭RainInSummer


    They have the opposite problem now in South Australia. Whoever manages their grid had to shut domestic areas down to prevent overproduction. Can't recall the details but it was to do with keeping the grid stable.


    Edit: Seems it was a rare occurrence. Inter state grid links were down so they couldn't export.

    https://hackaday.com/2021/05/10/south-australia-vs-too-much-home-solar/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,136 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Seems like BYD are coming to the UK in the next few months, which means they are thinking about RHD.

    Will they ship a few to Ireland or will they just forget about us I wonder?

    We could do with some more competition.



    Any update @mel.b. Did you test drive one?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,310 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I hope they do come here. It would not make sense for them to come to the UK and not to us as well.

    I a bit more competition certainly would be good.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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