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F1-2022 Round 5: Miami

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,851 ✭✭✭quokula


    V10s was a facetious answer, but it's absolutely not backwards. They'd be cheaper, faster, far better sounding, have fewer barriers to entry for specialists like Cosworth to participate, and produce much better racing because the cars would be smaller and lighter.

    The current cars are huge bloated barges in order to fit wider tyres and more aero surfaces to get them up to an acceptable speed and compensate for how slow the heavy hybrids were when they introduced them in 2014 and they were multiple seconds per lap slower than even backmarker cars built on a fraction of the budget and running on grooved tyres a decade earlier. Another side effect of all this work to compensate for the inadequacy of the hybrid power units is that the cars now barely fit on traditional tracks like Monaco.

    The hybrids aren't better or forward looking, it's pure marketing nonsense pushed by manufacturers who want to keep living in the past selling fossil fuel powered cars with mild hybrid systems which are destroying the environment by delaying the inevitable forward looking transition to full electric vehicles.



  • Posts: 25,917 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah no, it's all about road relevance. Like the hundreds of millions spent on MGU-H (that's the one they'll be getting rid of yeah) which was heavy, not efficient and so expensive that it's not worth having even in F1. Throw 3k extra revs out of the V6 to get the extra power, I'm sure the extra fuel used wouldn't out-weight what was used to make the useless MGU-H.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,088 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,851 ✭✭✭quokula


    It's the future of road transport. Hydrogen may be the future of heavy goods vehicles, the jury is still out, but electric vehicles are absolutely the future of personal transportation. Hybrid is a complete dead end in all cases and is just something being used to drag out fossil fuel dependence. Maybe synthetic low emission fuels have a future, which is something F1 and some car manufacturers are looking at, but that's a long way from being proven.

    Racing however is not road transport. Electric is still problematic in terms of balancing weight against range at high speeds but it will get there eventually. The new FE cars look to be a big step up but still a long way off something like F1. In the meantime the most suitable technology for racing is what should be used for racing, and that is not the current low capacity low rpm engines that can only push in short bursts before needing to recover energy and that have to drag around heavy batteries and energy recovery systems that contribute to the need for conservative tyre management. The actual fuel used by the cars is a miniscule fraction of the fuel used to transport them around the world so if they could triple their fuel consumption without making a dent in the sport's carbon footprint.

    Road relevance is all smoke and mirrors and marketing as nothing in F1 is truly road relevant, and nor should it be. It's like forcing footballers to start playing in dress shoes instead of studs to be more street relevant and to get marketing exposure for shoe manufacturers at the cost of the standard of the competition, then to spend hundreds of millions of dollars optimising those dress shoes to work on a pitch so they no longer have anything in common with actual shoes available on the high street, while still being less useful than basic studded boots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,621 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    This opening ceremony is some pile of shite



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭sam t smith


    ^ Hamilton taking the childish option:

    “Hamilton arrived for Thursday's official FIA press conference wearing a ring on every finger, a series of necklaces, a bracelet, piercings in both ears and three watches - two on his left wrist and one on his right - in a clear show of defiance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,668 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    This too shall pass.



  • Posts: 25,917 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why? If things aren't done as they're meant to be and regularly have been then they can't enter. Things can be kept really tidy if people want to.



  • Posts: 25,917 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jaysus, as Button pointed out Vettel was hitting 200 on the straight with no porpoising. Bit they'd better change the rules quickly for Mercedes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭BikeRacer


    This looks a very tricky track to drive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,208 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    Ben Edwards and John Watson commentating on this session on F1 TV Pro like the Eurosport glory days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭Gamb!t


    Have a feeling Merc might get a podium this weekend at the expense of some DNF's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,064 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Track looks like a safety car heaven.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    That Gainnbridge wall on exit is going to see a few drivers this weekend.

    -. . ...- . .-. / --. --- -. -. .- / --. .. ...- . / -.-- --- ..- / ..- .--.



  • Posts: 25,917 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm going to go with 5 VSC/SC/Red flags in the race. One rolling into another only counts for 1.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,088 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ha. If Hamilton wears an earring, does that make it a Prince Albert?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,851 ✭✭✭quokula


    He really is a petulant scumbag of the highest order. The FIA have now given him an exemption, once again confirming that the rules apply to everyone else and not Mercedes or Lewis, just like the last 8 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭Hijpo




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭BikeRacer


    I can't wait for Hamilton to retire, just so I don't have to read these sh1t takes anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,794 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    The Miami race makes me feel like I want to play Grand Theft Auto Vice City again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭Ultimate Gowlbag


    Unfortunately some lads will just get their rage horns out for someone else then



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,605 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Such an odd hill to die on for Hamilton. Anyway, they’ve given him 2 races presumably because his argument is that it’s never been enforced.

    Good performance so far by the Williams and nice to see Gasly find his rhythm a bit. Would expect some surprises and a few

    yellow/red flags this weekend, I hope to god that Sainz has a trouble free top 5 for the sake of his sanity!



  • Posts: 25,917 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Only if it's a black guy though. Because remember, anyone who doesn't like Hamilton is a massive racist and that's the end of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,605 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Spoke too soon!



  • Posts: 25,917 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah Carlos, God damnit. Maybe he's doing what Vettel did in the Red Bull days and get the mistakes out of the way early in the weekend.😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,289 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,064 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Sainz you silly arse.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,481 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Sainz in the wall. He's having a nightmare recently.



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