Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Nope, Putin's weaponization of refugees relies on a chaotic out pouring of millions of people into Europe and the EU with the various countries fighting amongst themselves threatening to close borders and sticking them in massive camps with little reliance on care, etc, etc.

The first thing the EU was pass a directive to give them similar temporary rights of all EU citizens, Denmark passed separate laws and directives likewise as did every other country who pledged to take in refugees.

It was a massive fúck you to Russia and Putin. It still doesn't stop his bot farms spreading malicious information about refugees, they will take all our houses, health care, jobs, they are all skin head gang members, corrupt welfare tourists who will bleed the place dry, etc. Unfortunately the same dribblers will see it pop up on their feed and spread it like wild fire.

But again I am surprised you are struggling with the concept, it the opinion of the EU High Commission and NATO. So you don't have to rely on what people are saying here, but if you are refuting it, you'll have to give reasons why.

Rubbish. The Ukraine conflict is a proxy war between US/NATO and weirdly the EU vs Russia. The refugees are collateral of that proxy war and we are suckers to absorb those costs without some serious quid pro quo from US/NATO.

Maybe you've been following a different war than I as the evidence shows that Russia is a paper tiger and outside it's nuclear arsenal, poses no actual threat to Europe. Why would they? They need people to sell their oil and gas to.

Look at this :p

Yeah, 17 year old, you've "squandered your head start" in being able to afford accommodation for University.

Yeah, 67 year old, you've "squandered your head start" in having to wait inordinately for necessary healthcare.

Yeah, 29 year old, you've "squandered your head start" in being unable to find appropriate employment due to housing costs.

Yeah, 30's couple, you've "squandered your head start" in finding available school places for children.

Yeah.

As Michael Martin said in the last 24 hours, the single biggest factor in the housing crisis has been the population increase. Oh well, that's that so. More the merrier.

Just don't forget, it's YOUR FAULT, Irish men and women, for "squandering your head start" against the waves of migration screwing the country. Your fault :p

Well no, they invaded one of the best countries in Europe militarily.

But by most western security analysis they now have their potential eyes on Moldova.

Either way the idea that they are no threat to Europe is absolute batshít.

Rand Paul that you? Lol. That's okay then.

There is only one thing prolonging the war and it's certainly not helping refugees, it's Putins aggression and his misjudged effort to bring the old Soviet Union back together before his head exploded from botox, they found the way in, they can find their way out.

Now they can do that, our they can spend the next 10 years being decimated military and economically and becoming eventually a vassal state of China.

Either way at this moment in time I don't see further Ukrainian partition as the more logical path.

Nearly every view you hold about Russia and Putin seems to come from your superior power of mind reading. Whatever about holding these views as theories, you seem to hold them all as facts, which they aren't. It takes a high level of hubris to be so sure about things you can't be sure of.

Jaysus all you seem to do is past judgement on other posters whilst offering nothing to the actual topic of debate. It's weird.

I fundamentally disagree with Blue Planets opinions but at least he is attempting to debate the points.

Anyway there is an ignore button there for you. Fill your boots.

This x10000…

the country and its Irish citizens are screwed…. And they / we are not to blame.

nobody truly appreciates yet how absolutely Donald ducked we are

I see the whole refugee thing backfiring on Putin. I see it cementing / strengthening relationships between likeminded/ friendly nations. For example Irish people will get to understand a bit / much more about Ukr and the Ukrainians, how resilient they are, their exports that are important to us, the hill the country has to climb to become more democratic having come from ‘ a communist way of life’ with its inbuilt corruption, etc, etc. getting to know some a Ukr. Personally. It will have created a lot of sympathy for Ukr for the foreseeable future and hopefully this will be shown through financial aid, more people going there for holidays, volunteers going there to help out, etc. Don’t know if Putin realised any of this?

Yip.

There is a saying, how did go you bankrupt?

Very slowly at the start and then all of a sudden.

Wtf is it with these two bit politicians from Ireland off on their war tourism jollies (at your expense) to Ukraine for photo opps? Absolutely tone deaf weirdos.

What is some gombeen from Tipperary going to be able to do to help Ukraine in any tangible way?

https://twitter.com/garretahearn/status/1522477596277157888?s=21&t=Pu3ZGnUwwOxESHwEkMlUKg

They did... however the wellbeing of citizens and taxpayers isn't their primary interest any longer or a priority..