Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Apparently Ukrainians get priority treatment over Irish people. Though that's probably just rumour mill right now. Let's see if a whistleblower surfaces.

They also get "super dole" of a thousand quid a week, along with unlimited coke and hookers.

As bad as Putin is he hasn't started every war in his life time.

Weird tangent.

They do, I have seen it myself, just rock up to any A&E, tell them you are Ukrainian and you are instantly brought into the VIP lounge.

Keep that to yourself. 😉

I hope Ireland is flooded with millions and millions of Ukranian refugees, then you whinging as*holes on here can carry on griping and throwing your arms up in shock horror even more.

Oh, and I also hope that if Ireland was ever to be invaded and a similar scenario to Ukraine happened here, and you were then a refugee in another country... that a fcuking big prick stabs your conscience, and you would be eternally grateful that there are some decent people in the world.

And before anyone starts bleating about the cost to the economy, not enough housing for our own, health system will collapse, we're paying them more than our own people, etc, etc, etc.... just remember, the Irish government made the decision, not people on Boards. So take it up with them.

I can't believe there's 77 pages of whining, whinging, soulless comments from posters on this thread. Humanity to your fellow man who has lost absolutely everything shouldn't have a price put on it. You'll still have your car, a roof over your head and food in your belly. But you'll still get on your soapboxes. Pathetic.

That was said tongue-in-cheek to put my point across, but I'm sure you know that.

And yes, I agree with you, the invaders likely would do a better job than the current lot who are a shambles.

I'm speaking to the larger point of population increases, of which the Ukrainian situation only adds.

Don't be purposefully ignorant, playing pretend. It's neither humourous or witty.

Why don't we do it for every affected country in the world then that has a war?

Oh because the Ukrianinans are white I guess.

Let me guess you stand with Manchester ect. And your profile pic have a blue and yellow flag on it.

Your whole post is riddled with the worst of spite, but this part is particularly egregious. Eventually thousands of people won't be able to afford to pay the costs of running a car, and people will end up homeless. It's beyond fantasy to think that people will just suffer a bit, instead of the reality that many will suffer greatly. Many in the upper and middle honestly seem to live in a fantasy land, a land where no one can reach the very bottom, but they can and they do, and their numbers will grow daily.

Once again too, we hear the preaches of "humanity, from people who don't seem to have any care for their own.

It's all grand and well these supporters of more and more people coming into the country. Again, I'll point to this as a recent example..

There isn't a shadow of a doubt in my mind that these types of people are all in the "I'm fine, doesn't impact me, who cares about the price?" category.

It's an observed phenomena in nature that avian species have a limited ability to count. They can "count" to about 5 or so. If they lay 8 eggs in the nest, and a predator takes 3 eggs, the bird literally will not realise what has happened. Limited intelligence and forethought. Or it could be interpreted as "I have 5, who cares about anything else?"

Similarly, I'm sure that a lot of the bird people advocating for population increases have the guaranteed security of their "nest", and they couldn't care less about the cost because someone else, some nebulous "other" ( read, Irish people going into the future) will pay for their myopia.

It would be an interesting exercise if these people were presented up front with costs. That their "guaranteed" private pensions will be reduced by x amount per thousand extra people, that the social pension will be reduced by x amount per thousand. Starting now.

In other words, THEY pay for their flippant disregard of reality, not "some guy, later".

Oh but there'd be a change in tune :)

It's as clear as day that the numbers don't add up. The pensions scheme as stands will require up to 4 million extra people by 2050. Housing Situation is a dead man walking. Healthcare is diminishing. You name it.

And if these avian hominids think that they're going to get away with exceptionally stupid decisions to fleetingly please their sense of ego with no price attached, they're dead wrong. Exceptional begets exceptional.

Everything is going to be on the table. Expropriation, pension relinquishment, social welfare reductions, forced movement out of "empty nests". All the stuff they think is locked up airtight for them. It's coming, put money on it. And then we'll see who's who and how they dance very, very differently with the bills attached.

"Uhhh, that's different", indeed :p

It's a completely false equivalence to be comparing people fleeing an actual war zone with someone arriving off a plane at Dublin airport, having somehow "lost" their documents on the walk between the plane and the immigration desk, and declaring themselves to be from somewhere where they neither look like the local population nor can speak the local languages while asking for "asylum".