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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    FYI.

    "Blue 01", A Ukranian Emergency Services An-26 crossed into Polish airspace at the border south of Lviv.

    When it crossed, it switched on its transponder.

    Looking at its point of origin, and tracking many flights over the last week from one particular airport that shall remain nameless, I'm expecting a Russian missile strike to hit this spot very soon. I'm actually surprised it hasn't been hit already, to prove a point.

    One reason why it hasn't is probably because of its proximity to the Polish border and the chance of a "mistake" ( mentioned in my previous posts), dragging Poland into the War, which Poland wants, very badly. There is no doubt that there are Polish and NATO personnel at this staging post.

    If anyone following OSINT or monitoring airtraffic can guess to which airport I refer, please PM me!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    What makes you think the killing would stop if Ukraine surrendered tomorrow? We've seen plenty of evidence of the rape, torture and mass murder that the Russian army have done and are still doing in areas they occupy. Russian state TV even openly discuss wiping the very notion of Ukraine from history, i.e. they are openly talking about genocide.

    If Ukraine acceed to them, the killing will keep going, it'll just be in a larger area than if Ukraine manages to hold them back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Even the Russians aren't pretending anymore that NATO is the reason they invaded.


    They no more felt threatened than the UK does of Ireland.


    Expansionist, racist, robbing, raping, thieving feics. Pretty clear at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,816 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    fascism and communism are completely different ideologies. What Stalin and Hitlers regimes had in common was authoritarianism. They were both authoritarian states. So you could say that they started going in different directions but, in one very important aspect, ended up in the same place.

    Editing to say: If there's a comparison with modern russia, it's Fascism. I wouldn't say nazi's just yet. In Nazism, there were particular internal groups who were enemies of the state. They were enemies just by existing. i.e. jews, gays, roma etc... Additionally the nazi party and the state were indivisible. They were the same thing essentially. The One Russia party isn't the state. It's Putin who's the state.

    So although it's nazi adjacent, it's not quite there and has for more in common with the fascist dictatorships. "Strong" leader, nationalism, paranoia etc...

    All of this is just semantics though. It might matter in a post war world but right now, he's still a **** who's invading a neighbour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Another interesting trend in certain flights is beginning to emerge. This is in relation to Hungary, its airspace and the increasing realisation that the country is very much on Russia's side in this conflict.

    Here we see the recent flightpath of a huge AN-124 strategic airlift aircraft ( and regular visitor to Shannon) which left Burgas in Bulgaria to fly to Rzeszow, or J-town as the Americans now call it.

    It completely circumvented Hungary. Is there a fear now that aircraft supplying weapons to Ukraine could be shot down over Hungary at Putins request?

    It's one worth watching.

    Screenshot_20220505-071136_Flightradar24.jpg




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Listening to ATC.

    It is possible to listen in to Air Traffic Control at most airports. J-town is offline, as expected, but Warsaw isn't. Burgas, in Bulgaria is active and is probably the return destination for the AN-124 mentioned in my post above and the staging post for many "humanitarian" flights.

    Here is the link to listen in. You enter the Code of the airport you wish to listen to and then have a little patience! Most of the exchanges are in the language of aviation, English, and using this together with Flightradar or ADS-B and tonnes of patience, it is very possible to form your own Open Sourse Intelligence picture of what is occurring in realtime. I could write reams about the stuff I've discovered using this method, but I've got to work!

    Mess around with different airports with lots of NATO traffic. Look up the frequencies for Centres, or Control centres too. They cover aircraft transiting from one controlled airspace to another.

    For example, when I fly from Roscommon ( Tiobhain airstrip) to Weston, I contact Shannon Control, low level after Takeoff so they can squawk-ident my aircraft using my transponder. I'm with them on that frequency until they hand me over to Weston Approach/Tower for approach and landing.

    Here's the link to Burgas. Press play if it does nor start automatically. Enjoy.

    https://www.liveatc.net/hlisten.php?mount=lbbg2&icao=lbbg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    I agree. I come from an Army family. Major overall of culture needed. In the 1980's the army was firing on all cylinders. Lots of new gear, a purpose ( The Troubles, lots of peacekeeping missions etc), Other nation's armies sent personnel to the Curragh to train with us as we had the best snipers plus we became experts in handling bomb disposal and IED detection.

    I also think that everyone of a certain age range should have to do their 2 years military training. It would be the makings of many, many young folk and would change the zeitgeist of a generation.

    Ireland is one of the most important strategic islands in the world. People forget that. Look at our position geographically. Our deep water ports etc.

    It's way more important than people realise. It's also crazy that we have no way of protecting one if the most crucial pieces of technical infrastructure in the world, over which we allowed Russia to hang around for a week or two - the undersea data cables.

    The question should not have been " what was the Russian Navy doing at that position?". It should be " What did Russia leave behind.."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,411 ✭✭✭✭listermint




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,411 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    If you weren't in favor of senseless slaughter you'd want Russian imperialism dealt with swiftly and effectively.

    So incredibly naive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick


    @greenpilot - The question should not have been " what was the Russian Navy doing at that position?". It should be " What did Russia leave behind.."


    The quite astonishing thing is that no political questions have been raised or inquiry held as to exactly "why" Russia would need or want to conduct "exercises" so far from their own waters, and in such a sensitive area.

    Irish defence issues aside, if this had happened in UK waters then there would have been uproar in Parliament.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,699 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,816 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    You may laugh but Nazi Wiccans are a huge threat to the world order.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur C. Clarke



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,329 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    There w big difference between allowing conscripts to show they are alive to there relatives and raping and butchering women and children.

    It takes two to tango. Putin want to dance by himself. He has given no concessions to any world leaders that tried to negotiate a settle before it started or since.

    The real funny part is Zelenski has been calling for talks with Putin for the last month.


    https://www.dw.com/en/zelenskyy-calls-for-direct-peace-talks-with-putin/av-61207865


    Putin bots should think about what they are posting

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    No, it's that they feel that asking for permission might be awkward if denied, same is done over Germany.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    LNR and DNR are Ukraine. They were invaded by Russia 8 years ago via proxy. There are men who are enlisting from that region - the issue is that there are reports that Russia is forcing men from invaded regions of Ukraine to fight against Ukraine.

    "It's unbelievable that two grown adults cannot sit down and agree a ceasefire to stop killing real people." Zelensky has continuously pursued direct talks with Putin since the start of the invasion, who has so far refused. The Russians and Ukrainian delegates have been in constant talks, but it's usually for technical issues and generally a sham from the Kremlin (they are repeatedly broken ceasefires). All the "reasons" Moscow has given for the war are, of course, completely fabricated. Putin is there to invade Ukraine, conquer it, subjugate the people, erase it's identity, it's culture and kill anyone who stands in the way of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I would say it's common sense to assume this has happened, that they received military help in the form of supplies, equipment and intelligence, right from the start. I'm only surprised that it hasn't been confirmed officially until now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    @greenpilot

    Another A124 just now, arriving into Rzeszow from Bulgaria, completely circumventing Hungary like your screenshot from this morning.

    There are clearly concerns around the security in Hugary.



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    Not sure if a Putin bot or just deluded.

    I've met some political activists recently (the kind that normally refer to each other as 'comrade', albeit only the older ones) and they weren't explicitly pro Putin, but were anti west re war all of a sudden. Freaks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭zv2


    I read somewhere that the Russians planned to kill everyone who resisted their invasion when they took Ukraine.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭zv2


    There is an argument that the nazis practiced black magic in the last century.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,337 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Thought I'd read Hungary had forbidden weapons bound for Ukraine to transit its territory? e.g. below

    It seems almost like at best a very weak + wavering "partner" and at worst 5th column inside the EU/NATO during this conflict. Have to say I've wondered recently about all the information they must be privy to as members of both organisations. Does it all get sent straight to the Kremlin? Perhaps that could also affect the neighbouring countries (or the US) involving Hungary very deeply in what they are up to (which they'd have to do if transiting Hungary).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    @fly_agaric how ironic is the last line from that article....

    ".....we have to ensure the security of Hungary ... that we are not getting involved in that war," Szijjarto said after meeting Kosovo Foreign Minister Donika Gervalla."

    ...in light of recent reports of their preparations to attempt to hive off some Ukranian teritory for themselves at the very start of the invasion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Putin has reportedly stopped using or referring to de nazification as an excuse because apparently the population don't understand it and are just puzzled. Black magic, now there's something people can get their simple minds into. Black magic implies practitioners, so they'll be talking witch-hunts soon, just laying the groundwork first. I think the penny will drop. with more than a few, that somethings off, then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,337 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Would be funny if true, but I don't believe that story (unless you've seen something more certain about it than me?).

    I find it unlikely Russia would do that, and effectively tell them this invasion was going to happen.

    I don't think Hungary is that important to Russia, or that close to them/allied with them either (to be made a sort of accomplice or accessory to their invasion plan), even if they are not being good + helpful/trustworthy members of EU/NATO during this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    more explosions in Kiev

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭threeball


    That story may not be true but NATO and the EU certainly have a trojan horse in their midst and they'd want to be very careful with the info they make Hungary privy to. Orban will take the western shilling but cosy up to authoritarian Russia to ensure his own survival. The EU model doesn't assure him of power for the rest of his days. The Russian model does. Their feet really need to be held to the fire in terms of choosing a side. He can't run with the hounds and piss with the pups.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick


    @Grayson - You may laugh but Nazi Wiccans are a huge threat to the world order.


    @zv2 - There is an argument that the nazis practiced black magic in the last century.


    Really.

    Then it's reasonable to expect the next airborne attack on Mariupol to look something like this I suppose

    witches.jpg


    The only Black Magic is sold in the shops.... chocolates, and very tasty they are too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    If the rumour that the operation is for cancer, I doubt he's got more than 3-4 months to live. He will without the slightest doubt, have put it off until it's way too late due to him being a control freak and worrying about the opportunity it presents to others and the impact on his image.

    Steve Jobs was an 'I'm too important' type also. Conventional medical treatments were too inconvenient so he convinced himself that alternative approaches that were more accommodating to his work life were the way to go, until of course it was very clear they hadn't worked.



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