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What is a low stress, well paid job?

  • 30-04-2022 1:06pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 22 StressedOot


    Currently I am on high 5 figures which just covers my bills, so I would need to replace it with something that pays quite well. I don't mind working shifts, but it has to be a "leave it at the door" sort of job, as all my career I have been guilty of not doing that, and I am exhausted.

    I don't have the financial security to take a career break.

    Any suggestions?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Currently I am on high 5 figures which just covers my bills, so I would need to replace it with something that pays quite well. 

    Have you considered becoming a professional footballer or film star?



  • Registered Users Posts: 22 StressedOot


    haha. That would be far more than 5 figures, surely? I can't act and have two left feet!

    Was thinking something more like hospitality, retail. Obviously an issue is that I don't have the specialist quals for something like fashion buying, but I would be willing to retrain for 12-18 months....

    Plumber? Electrician? the apprenticeships take years though.

    Gardener? Landscaper?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Some of the pharmaceutical technican roles in the pharmaceutical plants around the Dublin region are well paid.

    With shift work and a little overtime wages north of €70,000 are easily achieved.

    When the day is done the day is done in those jobs. Very little stress.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    I did shift work for 14 years and wouldn't recommend it to anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    OP did state they wouldn't mind shift.

    I won't do it myself, but it is a leave it at the door type, well paid position



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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ Cali Spicy Gunboat


    "What is a low stress well paid job?" - The answer is it does not exist.

    Some might argue that Software Development falls in this category, but people who go into that generally love programming and I.T, so it's almost not like work. The same could be said for something like Actuary, but again these people tend to be great at Maths and problem solving, so they don't get stressed. An average person in these jobs would be stressed out all the time.

    So really High Pay = High Stress, unless you're super smart.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭sam t smith


    Software Development is not low stress.

    There is often tight or unrealistic deadlines for a start. Unpaid overtime is not unknown.

    And all the non-coding crap that goes with it is not ‘enjoyable’ for anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    If you have the skills get an online work from home job and go to somewhere like small town Spain/Portugal... i know someone that is doing but they in their 20s and no ties...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭HBC08


    The low stress bit depends as much on the person as the job.



  • Registered Users Posts: 22 StressedOot


    I suppose that is a large part to do with it. Where I am now, in management, is more "strategic" yuck, and less operational.

    I always really enjoyed practical jobs in hospitality I had while in college. Granted they were stress free because I was 20 without a mortgage, and downside, they were poorly paid.

    I like doing things that show tangible results, that is why I think a trade type job might be good for me.

    What I am doing now, while there are results, is quite stressful to me due to the nature of the work.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭spakman


    By and large, well paid jobs require skill and/or ability to manage.

    Both are likely to bring stress in terms of responsibility, deadlines etc

    Then there's the general office politics, personality clashes etc

    Any job has the potential to be stressful depending on the people involved



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Politician. U get to have some beers and watch porn at work😛



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,198 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    #onlyfans



  • Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭JayPS 2288


    You’d earn €70k at supervisory level.

    €90-€100 k at managerial level in the pharmaceutical industry.

    Operative/technician/chemist level would earn mid 40’s€. +20% shift allowance for evening / morning rotation, or 30% for shifts involving nights.



  • Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭JayPS 2288


    OP, teaching is very well paid and almost entirely stress free. Sometimes you start after 9, always finished by 4ish, you’re never scheduled to teach the entire day so several breaks in between. Pay reaches €75,000.

    Guaranteed pension (gold plated) for 6% pension levy contributions (that you get tax relief on anyway) so more like 3%.

    18 weeks annual leave.

    Unvouched sick days fully paid with or without a doctor’s note.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    teacher yourself? as it doesnt seem very stress free, according to those i know that do it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭spakman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    oh ffs! a cheap jibe at teachers, by people that know fcuk all about the profession, while offering it as advice to others!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,263 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    This guy clearly knows what he is talking about.

    It's a wonder they have problems getting teachers at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Not the case.

    I'm involved in the industry.

    Mid 40s would get laughed at around Dublin.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    Either I'm having a very vivid deja vu or I have seen this exact steaming pile of horseapples posted elsewhere on boards in the last few months. That's odd...


    Often supervising before 8:30, almost never finished by 4. Often scheduled to teach the entire day, plus extra pointless 'admin.' Opening evenings, parent teacher meetings, various committee meetings, extra curricular activities and endless endless homework fill your days nicely.

    Vast majority won't reach €75,000.

    Pension and holidays are a huge plus, but not many teachers are able to work right up to full pension due to burnout.

    The unvouched sick days thing is fiction. I think you can take 7 uncertified sick days over a rolling two year period but you are usually required to send in work and correct it, so you're essentially working from home. It's easier to go in and teach. You can take a maximum of three days in a row, and if you take a Friday and the following Monday it's counted as four days. Certified sick leave is more generous and more complicated and you will have Medmark on the phone asking to see your bleeding wounds and quizzing you on whether you really need all that medication.



  • Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭bertiebomber


    Teachers have a **** job and i wouldnt do it for any money, mind & educate those entitled unruly little cnuts all day 5 days a week they deserve their pay .

    A stress free job is a simple one where you manage your own hours but the real secret is to do away with your natural materialism. Ie. stop keeping up with the Jones with your phone , watch, car, house, bathrooms, special paints and papers for the walls in the house you are never in due to working.

    Lower your expectations and do a job that you look down your nose at, its very humbling. Life is short & these days it is much shorter so stop and look at what your real needs are then look for work.

    The problem we have in this country is our work defines who we are that is the real mistake.


    Our job & income is the market value we place on allowing a company to benefit from our brain. We can choose to sell to the highest bidder and enslave ourselves as they never have enough until you are a withered burned out shell. Being defined by that work is not good as when it dries up you are then wounded & worthless in your own perception.


    Who you are must be defined by you to yourself. Once you can make & live the difference work becomes a lot less important to your life merely as a means to an end rather than a whole life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭JayPS 2288


    What’s your role in the industry? I’m a manager in a certain pharmaceutical company.

    I’m on €100k plus bonuses.

    The “bench workers”, QC, etc. earn mid 40’s starting salary, more if they rotate evening / morning shifts.

    Someone with no experience in the industry simply won’t walk into a mid 70’s salary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    That's very well said Bertie.

    The OP said they are just covering bills on high five figures! I'm a teacher on low five figures (teaching for about 16 years) and I have just made the decision to cut back my hours drastically because I was getting lost in the job. I'll do without my new phones and some of my more frivolous expenses and re-learn to enjoy my life and not my stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    And yet you advised the OP to 'walk into' teaching, suggesting they'd be pulling down 75k!



  • Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭JayPS 2288




  • Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭JayPS 2288


    How can you cut back your hours as a teacher? Do you not have to work the hours assigned to you? Usually 20 odd per week ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Actuary a low stress job ?

    There are huge burnout levels in the profession and the remuneration is a fraction of what it used to be.

    Constantly doing mental work is extremely tiring and demanding.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 22 StressedOot


    ok maybe "covering" was a bit facetious. I have enough to provide a good home and life for my family. We are not particularly flathuileach but we do live a nice life. No car loans, credit cards etc. Mortgage is high, I suppose.

    You're right though Bertie. And perhaps I need to stop caring about so much about my job!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    its a tough one to be honest, i think everyone is looking for that job, but only a few truly succeed, i certainly would entertain all options at the moment, and see whats required for moving, but my gut says, you d probably have to take a pay cut, but i could be wrong. best of luck, your health is absolutely your wealth



  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭backwards_man


    Op if you need more money, I would recommend you start looking at the next rung up the ladder from your current role. Trying to switch to a ramdom field is very difficult. Apply for your bosses job in a US multi with deep pockets, it might take a year to get it but keep interviewing, improving your answers and just go for it. It has the best quick chance of success over switching careers. And ask for minimum 30% above what you are currently earning which will equal 15% extra take home pay after tax. Dont increase your outgoings too much and bank the extra. Make an exit plan for retiring mid 50s and taking a less stressful part time job to pay the bills.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    I'll let you explain it to everybody. You're the knowledgeable one after all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,009 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    I've been doing shift work for 35 years and think it's way better as I have more days off due to clocking up more hours while in work and better pay due to allowances etc.. I was asked to work Monday to Friday for 3 months a few years ago and it nearly killed me. I felt that I was always at work and had a lot less money.


    My wife thinks that any 'inspector' type jobs are the best as you just report your findings someone else has the headache of compliance.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Lower your cost of living, if you are on 5 figures and only just cover your bills then I would say you need to move to a cheaper place and invest some of the money that you save. Sit down and figure out what your outgoings are and how to shrink those. There are a lot of calculators and spreadsheet templates online.

    I rent, I earn in no way as much as you, but my cost of living is low, and I've started to save, invest and am considering buying a property soon.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    life truly is relative, i worked shifts on and off over a few years, and it was leading me towards a break down! some can deal with them relatively easily, while some of us, well not so well......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    Well my wife gets up at between 4am and 5am each day to prepare for her classes. Sometimes evening work too. Absolutely not a job you can just leave at the door.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Good for you but the evidence shows that there is a higher risk of heart problems and cancers by working shifts. Especially nights



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,198 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    How is the unvouched thing fiction?

    You say it's a fiction and then go on to explain how it works. Ergo, it is not a fiction.

    Pro-rated, your 7 days unvouched scales up to 10 days for someone working full years (assuming working for 48 weeks). So the same as a private sector worker getting 5 unvouched days a year.

    Regarding your weekend complaint for holidays, the flip side of that is that if you miss a day unpaid, say a Wednesday, then you are docked one-seventh (not one fifth) of your wages. If you are sick on a Friday and still sick on the Monday then you can get a doctors note and keep your unvouched holidays.


    Now I'm not complaining about anything. Just pointing out you have no real case to moan about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,198 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    She might be banging the principal. Or, given the early rising, the local Pat Mustard milkman as well.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    bullsh1t, public sector workers are also under astonishing pressure here to, nobodies getting a free ride!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,986 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Probably been mentioned already, but from reading social media it appears teachers do next to no work for good money, and get the whole summer off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ....and according to the same source, many have lavish lifestyles, and portray and life of fulfillment!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,198 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Ok. You disagree that there is such a thing as unvouched sick leave

    I can't be responsible for your ignorance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...and the kids have arrived! yes its holidays, but you still have homework to do!



  • Registered Users Posts: 559 ✭✭✭BurgerFace


    Geography teacher.

    Piece of cake. There's no essays or opinions. It's all just facts. Teach students about rocks, river formations, glaciers, currents, the seasons, erosion, mountain ranges etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,198 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Ah now. Don't forget about all those new mountains that keep popping up every year that you have to learn about to keep up to date.

    A veritable mountain to climb so to speak!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    no idea, no info on this, you ll have to go with others opinions on this

    ....again, is this fact or alternative facts? are you a teacher, or are you expressing an opinion?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,198 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Well a poster said that unvouched sick days were a fiction ............ but then proceeded to explain, not only that they existed, but how they worked.

    When I pointed that out, you appeared to get your knickers in a twist. I never complained about it - just said they were not a fiction based on what the poster themselves said.

    Perhaps if you have no info, then have a deep breath before jumping in and making a fool of yourself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...making a fool of myself, come on now, the kids truly have entered the conversation!



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