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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • #2882
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118977363#Comment_118977363

    How would physically having the camera prove of disprove any of this?

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  • #2883
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978565#Comment_118978565

    Someone saying that they seen something happen is obviously what you would use. Then cross examine the other account and make a decision based on that. This happens outside of court too, what do you think a detective does?

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  • #2884
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,588 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118977828#Comment_118977828

    the 'in any walk of life' is doing some weird heavy lifting there, because a statement in the context we're talking about here is a very specific use of the word. a statement made to a garda is a legal document, and making a false statement is a criminal offence punishable with jail time.

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  • #2885
    tnegun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Another day another dope I'm not sure how I could have taken more of the lane https://streamable.com/hmgiqc not only was the pass here completely pointless had they waited 5 seconds the road was wide enough to pass they then turned into an estate so were almost home!

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  • #2886
    magicbastarder
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    the motorist in question either did that deliberately, and deserved more than the punishment received, or managed to cross the white line *accidentally* with oncoming traffic, and deserved more than the punishment received.

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  • #2887
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118981438#Comment_118981438

    You're not the first person I've seen get passed like that there. It's such a large junction they could have easily went wide so they had a straighter entry into the lane.

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  • #2888
    [Deleted User]
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    If that was a car dashcam filming he likely have lost a wing mirror. As the guy in the video mentioned if he hadn't crossed the line it wouldn't have been prosecuted.

    If that was deliberate which I think it was, what was the objective? ah I'll show these cyclists and give them a scare? Yeah all fun and games till you clip one and someone is dead. It's unbelievable how dehumanised we have become in the eyes of some.

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  • #2889
    Pawwed Rig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,451 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118981542#Comment_118981542

    It happens

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/09/27/cyclists-ran-over-pickup-truck-texas/5885828001/

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2890
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,741 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118981542#Comment_118981542

    I genuinely don’t think it was deliberate, it looks like they just have really shíte awareness of their position in the road, it looks like they follow the same sort of line the whole way through the road, as if they’re afraid of the bush on their passenger side. Which is sort of terrifying

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  • #2891
    CramCycle
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118981884#Comment_118981884

    Video is too short to be sure but they drift out at the right time for it to be intetnional. Either way though, it is either intentional or sh1t driving, both imply they should not be driving for very different reasons.

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  • #2892
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,588 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    random question - does a video like that automatically become public domain if used in a court case? i.e. should and does all evidence become publically accessible in the 'justice being seen to be done' sense?

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  • #2893
    tnegun
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118983448#Comment_118983448

    It's a shocking layout for a reasonably new junction zero provision for bikes turning right and the markings are very faded.

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  • #2894
    tnegun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭tnegun


    I must be invisible this week not the worst pass, but terrible driving and zero room for error all to get to the queue at the bottom of the slip 2 seconds sooner. I bet she came from lane three too https://streamable.com/jtpvxy

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2895
    JayPS 2288
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭JayPS 2288


    Any advice on how to shake the “fear” when going out? Few reasons I’m reluctant to cycle.

    One being that I’ve had occasional close passes. These scare the bejaysus out of me. Also because I’m sensitive to sudden loud noises so unnecessary horn beeping or aggression upsets me.

    There’s a serious uphill stretch going out of town in both directions. I struggle up this hill. I take the lane here to avoid being passed too closely but I’m concerned about holding up traffic. I never mind when I’m the driver and cyclists are taking assertive positions because I understand why and overtake when safe. Not everyone follows this. This uphill stretch is also on a bend. So maniacs will belt around it blindly.

    Is it selfish to take the middle off the lane at all times? Overtaking is not always possible without squeezing by me if I cycled in the gutter so I cycle out to prevent this. I don’t want to be a hindrance as I’m only a fair day hobby cyclist. I’m only cycling to the park to walk / feed the birds or excercise in lieu of wasting money in a gym.

    Thanks folks.

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  • #2896
    Chiparus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDcCd4KyI6g

    u

    Usual MGIF.

    Sound off because i used a naughty word.

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  • #2897
    ChrisJ84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭ChrisJ84


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118988765#Comment_118988765

    I think that's a very common fear, especially for someone starting out. I've found the best way to get more confident on the bike is to keep at it and build up slowly.

    If you have access to a car you could think about driving to somewhere quieter / easier until you get your confidence and fitness up. You'll be flying up that hill in no time!

    In terms to taking the lane, do what makes you feel safe. No-one should be overtaking you unless it's safe to do so, and if someone can't overtake a slow moving cyclist they shouldn't be driving. When I'm out on the bike I will pull in to the left to make it easier for cars to get past, but only if it's safe. If I'm not comfortable then I'll take the lane, no question.

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  • #2898
    MacDanger
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118992840#Comment_118992840

    Bad form by the driver but technically doing nothing wrong.

    They had overtaken you and then you tried to pass on the left while they were indicating left and turning which puts you in the wrong.

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  • #2899
    Pawwed Rig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,451 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118996064#Comment_118996064

    Apt username if you think that is an acceptable way to drive.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2900
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118996064#Comment_118996064

    Yeah but no. If the car had been ahead for a reasonable amount of time, yep. In this scenario the car had literally overtaken immediately before the turn. It would be reasonable to accept that the car could not or should not be able to complete the turn before the cyclist got there. There are several laws broken by the driver, if you go through this and the law thread you'll actually find the legal terms if you require but as a general note, technically and ethically, it was not ok.

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  • #2901
    Chiparus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118996064#Comment_118996064


    They changed lane when it was unsafe to do , they braked, if they did it to you (or me) while driving , and you had to brake to avoid a collision you would consider it unsafe.

    You cant cut across another vehicle ,to take a left turn.

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  • #2902
    Chiparus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    They actually started changing lane before they overtook me.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2903
    DaveyDave
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    The worst thing about left hooks is the fact every driver knows your there as they have to pass you in the process. I don't think it's ever a genuine mistake.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2904
    vintcerf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭vintcerf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118996064#Comment_118996064
    Screenshot 2022-04-30 at 11.56.04.png

    nothing to do with bad form, just technically wrong.

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  • #2905
    MacDanger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118996411#Comment_118996411

    As far as I'm aware, there's nothing in the law about being ahead for a "reasonable amount of time". The fact is that the car was in the lane and indicating to turn left and the cyclist attempted to undertake it. So they were either unaware of the law or unaware that the car was indicating ; either way, not a good look.

    Earlier illegal manoeuvres by the car are exactly that - illegal - but two wrongs don't make a right

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  • #2906
    MacDanger
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118996462#Comment_118996462

    Absolutely. But that still doesn't entitle you to undertake on the left

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  • #2907
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,588 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i don't see an attempt to pass on the left.

    anyway, a car driver should not pass another vehicle like that if they're intending to turn left in short order. that's basic stuff.

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  • #2908
    km991148
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118996949#Comment_118996949

    You think it's acceptable to overtake someone in a way that causes them to brake? Is that how you were taught to drive? Or are you one of the many Irish that never really learned in the first place?

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  • #2909
    Chiparus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118996951#Comment_118996951

    I did not attempt undertake , they cut across me braked and turned . Do think thats acceptable and do it to other vehicles?

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • #2910
    MacDanger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118997353#Comment_118997353

    No, like I said, it was poor driving.

    Equally though, after that dangerous move on their part, it was poor cycling on your part to not be aware that they were turning when they passed and had their indicator on.

    I'll leave it at that

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  • #2911
    magicbastarder
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    How do you know they weren't aware? They braked in time?

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