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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 818 ✭✭✭rustynutz


    They are making progress though. When you step back and try not to get sucked into the propaganda being churned out on both sides, sure, Russia completely miscalculated the assault on Kyiev, but unfortunately they are gaining ground in the Donbass region, which was their original aim.

    Fair enough their military is not the powerhouse it was originally thought to be, and has been a humiliation for Putin, but their sheer numbers, and their willingness to sustain massive casualties, can't be ignored.

    Germany had a far better trained and technically advanced military during WW2, but the sheer numbers Russia had meant they won in the end.

    I hope I'm wrong, but I can't see a way that they will be beaten and withdraw from Ukraine. I fear a long drawn out conflict which will destabilise and destroy Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    This is what real Russians are facing total control of the media narrative




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,767 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




    Oh, look at all those Russian speaking Transnistrians queueing patiently to welcome all their Orc compatriots about to arrive from the the Orc motherland.

    Whoops, sorry, my bad...

    "People continue to leave Transnistria en masse, fearing an escalation of the conflict. The whole world already knows where rusnya there is a threat to life Because for the sake of carrying out propaganda purposes, in order to accuse the other party of crimes committed, they are ready even to kill civilians."

    Why would you want to leave your Russian speaking separatist aspiring region to presumably the greater Moldovan state that you don't like and where people speak Romanian, when more Russians seem likely to soon arrive. Surely you prefer your own kind to Moldovans?

    Orcs are funny.

    Post edited by cnocbui on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,394 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Russia is just a pure farce at this stage:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭shillyshilly




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  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    they’re not an ally of Putin. You’re 100% right. But they are certainly not an ally of us either. We are in the same tent but that’s as far as it goes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Comparisons with WW2 are not at all valid.

    Russia only defeated a brutal German invasion after losing countless millions of men, around 90 thousand tanks, millions of civilian casualties, thousands of towns/cities in utter ruin, etc.

    It was a titanic ideological war with unprecedented scale and there's no way modern Russia has the means or appetite to get involved in a death-struggle of that nature or anything even remotely close to it.

    Their armed forces are nowhere near the size they were back then relatively speaking and their modern day industry isn't remotely capable of supporting such a conflict either.

    I mean Russia has already set it's armed forces back by years by its disastrous adventure in Ukraine. This was never meant to be a "war", it was meant to be a short, sharp victory with probably a few hundred casualties anticipated. Clearly they had zero plan B.

    Contextually their modern day military and industrial capability is nothing whatsoever compared to what it was in WW2, even if they were on a war footing, which they are not.

    Back then they could replace tanks, planes and equipment faster than they were losing them, even when they were losing hundreds every day for years.

    They absolutely cannot do that these days, neither with tanks, planes, men or missiles, even if Putin declared total war tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,891 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It's not a question of making progress for Russia. It's a question of making enough progress within an acceptable timeframe and at an acceptable cost. It's a very different conflict to WW2 in that WW2 was an existential war for Russia, requiring total mobilisation with a fairly motivated population. This current conflict was supposed to be an in-out job, topple Zelenskyy and back to business of old. It's a very different situation, and it's difficult to see the Russian population simply accepting its sons being drip fed into a meat grinder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,437 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    These actually sound like a decent Russian couple, unlike some of the sociopaths / psychopaths we have heard on recorded audio recently. Both of them seem to regret the war and the wife says she is having sleepless nights at the thought of the many Russian soldiers being killed (something her fascist government claims isn't even happening).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Lads have a jeep for sale for 700, had a call fro a Ukrainian in Ireland wanting jeeps to export to ukraine. Should I sell at a discount? Would ye believe



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    No discount, you don't know where the money is going. Whatever discount you were planning on giving, donate it directly to the Ukraine armed forces.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Etch the name of the Russian Ambassador saying it is a gift from him to Ukraine just in case it ends up over there and gets seized by the Ruskis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    I'd believe there's a lotta chancers trying to profit off the war - ask for his passport



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Ireland isn't helpful or useful? We've taken in 25,000 men woman and children feeling Ukraine with no cap on more, in the midst of one the biggest housing crises in the history of this state, afyer covid fúcked the economy and our already buggered health service more, where Irish people are struggling to put and keep a roof over our house, and gave them full benefits, medical cards etc, with zero background, or health checks and are suddenly "taking action"(with fúck all of a plan) about the housing crisis? And have sent millions in humanitarian aid?

    Maybe we should have just emptied the shelves of the Curragh and given them what anti tank weapons we have and only take 3000 of them in instead? That's around the UK figure and they insist on checks and long waits and visas and have way more of their own supply of heavy weapons in reserve and have encouraged and supported the Russian regime's filthy and bloody money for decades keeping it propped up to line the pockets of England's chinless wonders. No doubt they're "punching above their weight" too?

    G'way to fúck with that ballsology. To be perfectly frank I'm getting really fúcking tired of this insecure Irish emotionals gung ho keyboard warrior bollocks .

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,808 ✭✭✭threeball


    And what are you going to do about it even if it does. You have a fairly decent chance of getting a terminal illness throughout your life. Now you could sit there for 20yrs worrying about getting an illness or you could plod along until that day comes, if it ever comes, and deal with it then.

    Baz Luhrmann was on the money when he said

    Don't worry about the future

    Or worry, but know that worrying

    Is as effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing Bubble gum

    The real troubles in your life

    Are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind

    The kind that blindsides you at 4 p.m. on some idle Tuesday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,808 ✭✭✭threeball


    Russia would have fallen to Germany in WW2 were it not for the massive supply of military equipment shipped from the US to keep them in the game. They'd do well to remember that history today and the irony of criticising supplying an invaded country with arms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭TheTruth89


    Our ability to kill is vastly better now there numbers count for nothing infact it's nearly a hindrence to them in terms of power projection. War has moved on.


    1v1 in those days and without vast help of the us and UK Russia would have been mauled easily by the German army.


    They will gain ground but there economy is in tatters the Ukrainians are getting a constant stream of arms and are more determined than ever to fight and kill Russians. Russia more than likely will take ground but I doubt there ability to hold it in the long run it will be an exercise more damaging than benefitical to Russia. And they will be far worse off because of the moronic decisions of Putin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭rubbledoubledo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,161 ✭✭✭wassie


    And there we go.....bringing it back about the English.......fook me.

    BTW where are you getting your 3000 figure from?

    Total Ukraine Scheme visa applications received: 107,200

    Total Ukraine Scheme visas issued to people: 71,800

    Total arrivals of visa-holders in the UK: 21,600

    These are UK figures - but the its mainly in England.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    While we should be concerned with Putin and his nukes, I'm gonna go by actions instead.

    Nato are still sending weapons in.

    If Nato thought there was a real, actual risk of nukes being used, that wouldn't be the case.

    And if the threat is real, what does the west do? Back down? Appease this twat? Nah, not happening.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,437 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Lots of stuff on Kremlin TV tonight about WW3 and nuclear war. But I reckon this is a sign of desperation and that the "special operation" is going very badly. If that's the only card they have to play, it's a weak one.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    Your jeep must be some piece of crap if your selling it for 700 in this market, one wonders if indeed you can be believed at all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭TheTruth89


    Ireland is doing what it can the best it can, functional practical help is usually the best help but alas it's the least glamorous and not as glorious as giving weapons and being shoulder to shoulder with them in the trenches weapon wise and so people write it off as not being good enough and are fleeting in there praise when in reality, practical help is what they need the most.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    21,600 is hardly great now. Population of UK is more than 13x the population of the Republic.........It would be like if we had taken about 1650 of them in so far



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Senior Gazprombank Official Leaves Moscow For Ukraine To Fight Russian Invaders


    Fair play to him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    Birthplace of famous Ukrainian Anarchist Mastor Makhno.

    https://www.rfi.fr/en/ukrainian-town-draws-inspiration-from-anarchist-hero

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huliaipole#/media/File:%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BC'%D1%8F%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_%D0%9D%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%85%D0%BD%D0%BE_%D0%B2_%D0%93%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%B9%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%96.jpg

    Whilst modern Ukrainian Anarchists have also joined the gallant fight against the invading Hordes of Fascist Orcs. In sharp contrast to those shameful western bought "hard left" Putinist enablers such as Wallace, Daly & PBP.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    TBH I could give two fúcks about the English government in this particular context, it was merely by way of illustration, never mind their decades of support for putin's cronies. And by way of illustration because some are rattling on about how we're not doing enough and similar ballsology. The Ukrainian refugees in the UK indeed number 21,000, half of whom only got visas because they had existing relatives in the UK. And it's not as if the UK government didn't drag their heels about them from day one and their cap was like ours 200,000. Ireland, a population of five million, the UK with a population approaching sixty million; but with the same caps and more Ukrainian refugees on the ground here, with no checks, or visas and far more social support.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    I'm beginning to think this programme is satire and we just don't understand it in the west



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,098 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Ireland is doing the best it can

    It isn't though. Never has because we think we are special and don't need to involve ourselves in minor things like the defence of the free world. That's for others to do, we can't be arsed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Bizarre stuff.. it must be hard to be an ambassador when you know you have to lie (or else).

    Eritrea ranks just below North Korea in press freedom (#180 out of 180), so he didn't pick the best example of a country that doesn't lie.




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