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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Human nature not to dwell on the danger of it all. We've got that sweet sweet inbuilt ignorant switch. But if you did a bag of mushrooms and sat infront of sky news you could defo have a bad trip.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭zv2


    Bayraktar discussion (manufactured in Ukraine) Bayraktar question : CredibleDefense (reddit.com)

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,868 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    I find it strange that most people I know are more concerned whether Liverpool win tonight , than whether Putin is bluffing and the world ends in a nuclear war.





  • Its still too early in the war to say how it will turn out. Putin has done irreversibly damage to the Russian economy. I dont see how things are ever going back to normal for them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Ken Tucky


    Nothing we can do about it though..

    And I don't say that lightly. So might as well get on with things



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,337 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Well, you'd hope it is all just noise and a bluff (and how else can you treat it really and still stay sane).

    If you step back for a min. and consider Putin is making regular dark hints about nuclear strikes and there's the deranged N. Korean type propaganda from Russian tv that people post here where they are either laughing or winding themselves up in fits of rage + threatening all sorts (incl. nuclear missiles) on "enemies" helping Ukraine...It is disturbing and quite incredible where Russia is now, and what it has become.

    Maybe it's just too much to dwell on. This made me laugh from Irish Times on our local antics in the Dáil where who gets to burn turf is the main issue (eh, the burning issue I suppose).




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    We're not great at assessing complex danger really. Sure we've got our primate instincts but most people would worry more about their safety getting onto a commercial plane than getting into a car. Its just too out there of a concern for most people.

    And thankfully so, you've no control over it so I'd hate to be worried about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    Progress?

    You should stop watching Russian "news".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,848 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    how do you know they are more concerned? Just cos they not talking about Russia Ukraine 24/7?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Who would seize Gazprom? Gazprom is Russian majority state owned energy corporation based in Russia which distributes gas to the EU and elsewhere via pipeline.

    In other news

    Senior Gazprombank Official Leaves Moscow For Ukraine To Fight Russian Invaders

    https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-volobuyev-gazprombank-fighting/31823444.html

     



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,868 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    The threat was only made this afternoon , it is headlining on BBC and Guardian , nothing in Irish media - so, not sure what your point is about 24/7 - I questioned why many people seam quite unconcerned, given possible threat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    Mr Filatov advises us to seek out and discuss alternative viewpoints. If you do that in his country you get 15 years in Jail. Yes great idea. Will he tell Russians to seek out alternative viewpoints???

    Russians politicians and Russian apologists should have this poked in their eye at every opportunity why they need to jail peaceful, ordinary , non criminal citizens for 15 years?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    Not sure where you would get that I am watching Russian news, but sure whatever floats your boat I guess.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭shillyshilly


    F-Putin... his nukes are compensating for his crap army, napolean height and fragile ego..

    Start worrying about it and Putin wins, start giving concessions and Putin wins, if Putin wins, he doesn't stop in Ukraine and Transnistria.

    There's also nothing we can really do about it either

    Hopefully Pool lose



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    The Russian regime has been making both veiled and open threats since they invaded. Given their casual disregard for facts and for keeping to their word, whatever they proclaim isn't worth the spittle it takes to utter it. You can only judge by their actions, not their word.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Sounds like the Ukrainians are planning to rename the Kerch bridge, Kursk bridge.

    "Colonel of the FSB of Russia and former "Minister of Defense of the DPR" in 2014 Igor Strelkov (Girkin) commented on the words of the Secretary of the NSDC of Ukraine Alexei Danilov about the possibility of a strike on the Crimean bridge. Strelkov during the stream said that the APU will strike when it is "possible, achievable and profitable.

    ...

    According to him, Ukrainian army is quite capable of striking the bridge across the Kerch Strait, and this is evidenced by the downed and subsequently flooded flagship of the Black Sea Fleet cruiser "Moscow"." https://focus.ua/uk/voennye-novosti/513579-kreyser-moskva-svidetel-girkin-ubezhden-chto-vsu-naneset-udar-po-krymskomu-mostu-video

    Oleksiy Danilov, Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine apparently made a comment to the effect that Ukraine would/might attack the bridge if the opportunity arose.

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  • I think far too many people are underestimating this risk. Perhaps survivalist delusion.

    The old rat backed into a corner analogy is still in play as far as I see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    "The Australian Ministry of Defense sent Ukraine six towed howitzers of 155 mm caliber and related ammunition for these artillery systems, according to defense brief.

    The day before, at the Royal Australian Air Force Air Force Air Force, howitzers were loaded onto a C-17A Globemaster III military transport aircraft and sent.

    "The government will continue to look for opportunities to provide further operational military assistance where it can promptly provide the necessary capabilities to the Armed Forces of Ukraine," Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison said.

    Other military equipment, rations, medical supplies and financial contributions to the NATO trust fund for Ukraine were also transferred, which is also part of Australia's assistance, which now amounts to 225 million Australian dollars."

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    Autralia continues to be the antithesis of Germany and Ireland - helpful, punching above their weight in useful response to Ukrainian requests.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    That'd be the fella whose much younger long term mistress is one of the most successful gymnasts in the history of whatever it is she does?


    Possibly the wealthiest man in history and has the power to have probably literally anyone "disappear" he wants to have.


    I'd doubt he he's worried about his height.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭rustynutz


    They are making progress though. When you step back and try not to get sucked into the propaganda being churned out on both sides, sure, Russia completely miscalculated the assault on Kyiev, but unfortunately they are gaining ground in the Donbass region, which was their original aim.

    Fair enough their military is not the powerhouse it was originally thought to be, and has been a humiliation for Putin, but their sheer numbers, and their willingness to sustain massive casualties, can't be ignored.

    Germany had a far better trained and technically advanced military during WW2, but the sheer numbers Russia had meant they won in the end.

    I hope I'm wrong, but I can't see a way that they will be beaten and withdraw from Ukraine. I fear a long drawn out conflict which will destabilise and destroy Ukraine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    This is what real Russians are facing total control of the media narrative




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




    Oh, look at all those Russian speaking Transnistrians queueing patiently to welcome all their Orc compatriots about to arrive from the the Orc motherland.

    Whoops, sorry, my bad...

    "People continue to leave Transnistria en masse, fearing an escalation of the conflict. The whole world already knows where rusnya there is a threat to life Because for the sake of carrying out propaganda purposes, in order to accuse the other party of crimes committed, they are ready even to kill civilians."

    Why would you want to leave your Russian speaking separatist aspiring region to presumably the greater Moldovan state that you don't like and where people speak Romanian, when more Russians seem likely to soon arrive. Surely you prefer your own kind to Moldovans?

    Orcs are funny.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,196 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Russia is just a pure farce at this stage:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭shillyshilly




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    they’re not an ally of Putin. You’re 100% right. But they are certainly not an ally of us either. We are in the same tent but that’s as far as it goes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,776 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Comparisons with WW2 are not at all valid.

    Russia only defeated a brutal German invasion after losing countless millions of men, around 90 thousand tanks, millions of civilian casualties, thousands of towns/cities in utter ruin, etc.

    It was a titanic ideological war with unprecedented scale and there's no way modern Russia has the means or appetite to get involved in a death-struggle of that nature or anything even remotely close to it.

    Their armed forces are nowhere near the size they were back then relatively speaking and their modern day industry isn't remotely capable of supporting such a conflict either.

    I mean Russia has already set it's armed forces back by years by its disastrous adventure in Ukraine. This was never meant to be a "war", it was meant to be a short, sharp victory with probably a few hundred casualties anticipated. Clearly they had zero plan B.

    Contextually their modern day military and industrial capability is nothing whatsoever compared to what it was in WW2, even if they were on a war footing, which they are not.

    Back then they could replace tanks, planes and equipment faster than they were losing them, even when they were losing hundreds every day for years.

    They absolutely cannot do that these days, neither with tanks, planes, men or missiles, even if Putin declared total war tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,059 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It's not a question of making progress for Russia. It's a question of making enough progress within an acceptable timeframe and at an acceptable cost. It's a very different conflict to WW2 in that WW2 was an existential war for Russia, requiring total mobilisation with a fairly motivated population. This current conflict was supposed to be an in-out job, topple Zelenskyy and back to business of old. It's a very different situation, and it's difficult to see the Russian population simply accepting its sons being drip fed into a meat grinder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,441 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    These actually sound like a decent Russian couple, unlike some of the sociopaths / psychopaths we have heard on recorded audio recently. Both of them seem to regret the war and the wife says she is having sleepless nights at the thought of the many Russian soldiers being killed (something her fascist government claims isn't even happening).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Lads have a jeep for sale for 700, had a call fro a Ukrainian in Ireland wanting jeeps to export to ukraine. Should I sell at a discount? Would ye believe



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,094 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    No discount, you don't know where the money is going. Whatever discount you were planning on giving, donate it directly to the Ukraine armed forces.




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