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icdg · 09-04-2022 10:00am

Possibly the post-Brexit EU license issue raring it’s head again rather than rights issues as such. It’s an extra hassle for channels going on the Irish EPG that didn’t exist before and unless they are targeting Ireland either for advertising or subscriptions channels may just not bother in future.

theoneeyedman · 09-04-2022 10:03am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118901667#Comment_118901667

The idea of those tickers on 'news' channels is to give the perception of something actually happening, rather than to provide actual information. It's largely a ruse, Sky Sport news are great at it - BREAKING NEWS! SECOND CHOICE FULL BACK FOR LEAGUE ONE SIDE CARRYING A KNOCK AND IS DOUBTFUL FOR JOHNSONS PAINT SECOND ROUND GAME NEXT WEDNESDAY,! and the likes

This is an excellent thread, one I use to keep in touch with new channels as they appear and decide to tune them into my box and channel menus or not. The information is very useful.

I don't know how useful though commenting on the actual content is. There is a lot of crap available FTA, but a lot of good stuff too. Where the line between crap and good stuff is very personal one, there is many channels I wouldn't tune into the box in a million years, but some people enjoy them, and I'm sure vice versa.

Each to their own.

L1011 · 09-04-2022 10:05am

The channels owners have not insignificant media holdings in Ireland, they may be pulling headlines from the Irish papers.

Talksport has an Irish opt-out stream with presenters already so I wouldn't be too surprised if they even went as far as to put TalkTV and some of the radio on Saorview in future

Will be interesting to see how GBN alike this channel goes. I suspect slightly less divisive but still fairly right wing

Jim_Hodge · 10-04-2022 10:28am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118902019#Comment_118902019

Have to agree. This was a great thread to get a heads up on a new channel but too much discussion on content etc is taking from it.

dublinman1990 · 12-04-2022 8:22pm

DS has noted in it's Sky Changes thread that Channel 4 HD with Irish adverts is to launch on the Sky Ireland EPG sometime in 2022.

Some other interesting news regarding BBC Two NI HD on Sky & Freesat. A channel with the SID 11015 was carrying EPG data for BBC News HD. It was live on the Sky EPG in the UK, as well as Ireland maybe, for a brief period of time before it went off the EPG again a few days ago. A poster had mentioned on DS that it was for BBC Two.

Also no updates are available yet about BBC Three appearing on the Sky EPG in Ireland. I wonder if this process is being delayed for the Irish market.

stuartfanning · 25-04-2022 8:14am

Rupert Murdoch's Talk TV launches on Sky in the UK today at 7PM on channel 526. But it will not be available in the ROI I understand. Wonder why given that GB News is.

OneEightSeven · 25-04-2022 8:29pm

TalkTV

Satellite: Astra 2E 28.5°E

System: DVB-S2

Frequency/Polarisation: 11427/V

Symbol Rate: 29500

FEC: 8/9

Mav11 · 25-04-2022 8:34pm

Surprisingly slick and professional when compared to GB News. Excellent quality HD also.

devnull · 25-04-2022 8:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118976046#Comment_118976046

Having seen a little bit of it, it's pretty obvious that it is basically Fox News UK with a less toxic name.

The Graphics and presentation are basically Fox News in different clothing, the font, types of camera pan, the lower graphics are different colours, but unmistakably the kind that Fox have always gone for.

Far more professional launch than GB News, but it's clearly a partisan channel.

Mav11 · 25-04-2022 8:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118976118#Comment_118976118

Yes clearly partisan, but then it probably has to be to gain audience share and differentiate itself from the other news channels.

devnull · 25-04-2022 9:27pm

Spot the difference.

The Five - Fox News US

The Talk- TalkTV

GIMP · 26-04-2022 5:02pm

Just watched this channel and a thought occurred to me, in a country of 5m people that we don't have at least one decent news channel, uk now has 4. Pity Newstalk wouldn't/couldn't take the initiative to launch a tv channel. Fantasy i know!!

muffler · 26-04-2022 8:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118980042#Comment_118980042

Dont forget the UK has a population of 67 million.

MenloPete · 27-04-2022 9:30am

I really think it's time to split this into 'New Channel Announcements' and 'New Channel Discussion' threads.

Mav11 · 27-04-2022 9:50am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118982510#Comment_118982510

Why?

muffler · 27-04-2022 10:56am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118982510#Comment_118982510

Can't see that working. If you have an announcement only thread it will be filled with chat anyhow.

Tony · 27-04-2022 11:24am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118982510#Comment_118982510

I agree

icdg · 27-04-2022 12:21pm

Just to be clear, if I do that and make it a hard rule, there will be warnings and bans for those who break it. I’d like to see more clearly that there is a problem in having one or two lines of discussion.

Additionally, the Brexit licensing issue now seems to be rareing it’s head big time, I’m not sure if we need a sticky on it, new UK channels are not going to bother about going on the Irish EPG now unless they are selling advertising here or have a particular interest in being here. That said, I think that in not too long a time we are probably going to see more departures than arrivals on the EPG (in general) as the move of basic cable channels to streaming picks up. Watch what happens when Paramount+ launches and how long the Nickelodeon and CBS channels last after that.

Gerry Wicklow · 27-04-2022 12:25pm

I don't see any particular need to split this thread. After all it's not like there's a huge amount of traffic on it either way.

Mr Crispy · 27-04-2022 2:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118983309#Comment_118983309

My view as well.

MenloPete · 27-04-2022 5:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118983777#Comment_118983777

OK - I consider myself outvoted.

theoneeyedman · 01-05-2022 12:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118983309#Comment_118983309

I think Chat about the channels coming and going is OK-what annoys me personally is the commenting on content, eg 'who'd watch that rubbish' or the likes.

muffler · 01-05-2022 2:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119001104#Comment_119001104

Couldn't agree more. There's a TV forum for those type of comments.

Hotblack Desiato · 01-05-2022 5:48pm

You'd be left scratching your head at who would watch certain channels, but somebody must be... I wonder roughly how much it would cost to get a basic SD channel onto Astra?

stanley1 · 01-05-2022 8:53pm

alibi, eden, gold are whats left to go FTA, the rest is a feast of appearing and disappearing transponders.

theoneeyedman · 01-05-2022 9:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119002649#Comment_119002649

And has that cost dropped or something recently? The likes of GB News and TalkRadio TV are basically Radio stations in the TV, they will have a certain audience I guess, and they could be backed by some of the folks who backed Brexit and the likes, but you'd still wonder how they can make it pay.

SCOOP 64 · 02-05-2022 1:55pm

Can you get BBC3 FTA ?

theoneeyedman · 02-05-2022 2:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119005505#Comment_119005505

Yes. Shares location with Cbbc, only switches to bbc3 after 7pm.

icdg · 03-05-2022 2:51pm

Not a channel per se but Paramount+ launches on 22nd June, free to Sky Cinema subscribers, at a price for everyone else (the U.K. price will be £6.99pm, they haven’t announced the ROI price yet).

mrtom · 03-05-2022 5:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119005650#Comment_119005650

Can anyone get BBC 3 EPG after 7 on FTA?

Atlantic Dawn · 03-05-2022 6:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119010904#Comment_119010904

Yes it will show after 7, no subscription required.

petronius · 03-05-2022 6:16pm

BBC 3 - is it really needed? Would be great to see BBC 1 +1, BBC 2 +1 and BBC 4 +1

Is GB News and Talk TV eventually gonna merge? fishing in the same pond!

dulpit · 03-05-2022 7:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119011015#Comment_119011015

BBC 3 is needed. Plus 1 channels are a waste of space, everyone has recorders now.

GB news and talk TV won't merge, but I could see one failing. Suspect if either were to fail, it'd be gb news... Murdoch has too much money to allow talk tv fail.

dubrov · 03-05-2022 7:30pm

I don't think BBC are blocked by the regulator from broadcasting BBC1/BBC2+1. Something about it would take too much market share from competitors. It would certainly be more popular than the likes of ITV, Channel 5 etc.

Gerry Wicklow · 03-05-2022 7:33pm

You have to remember that BBC1 and 2 have many regional variations. To do a proper +1 service would add a lot more channels and transmission costs.

Gerry Wicklow · 03-05-2022 7:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119010904#Comment_119010904

BBC3 HD is FTA after 19:00 on 10847 V 23000 3/4 DVB-S2 8PSK

It shares the channel with CBBC. If you try to watch CBBC after 19:00 you will see and hear BBC3 but may get an error message. You should scan and add BBC 3 after 19:00 so that you have a separate entry for CBBC and BBC3

Capt'n Midnight · 04-05-2022 12:02am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119011015#Comment_119011015

Sometimes the regional channels show things at different times. BBC NI is often a +30 minute channel. SKY, Fresat, Enigma2 boxes all allow you to easily search for other instances of a program so you can juggle schedules. But late night programs might be subtitled.

BBC3 HD shares the same transponder as BBC2 Wales HD, BBC Two HD, BBC One HD , BBC One NI HD (and timeshares with CBBC HD) so a decent box should be able to record them on one tuner and still and leave the second tuner free to watch/record something else.

As others have pointed out UK viewers will have access to catchup from the internet via Freesat / Freeview equipment or websites or apps all of which are geoblocked because of funding from TV license fees.

fryup · 04-05-2022 1:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119011015#Comment_119011015

good god no, those + channels are a waste of bandwidth

petronius · 05-05-2022 1:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119011316#Comment_119011316

ITV has regional variations STV, UTV, ITV Wales, Granada etc. and all have a +1 service. I get it not all would need to have it. BBC3/4 don't have regional so easier for them, and BBC 2 less regional variations. Maybe a single BBC1 +1 service could just be n/a (or BBC News for that 30mins etc.) when it would be re-broadcasting a regional variation?

anyways just a thought

Hotblack Desiato · 05-05-2022 1:24pm

ITV etc. channels have commercial income so +1 channels can be profitable.

BBC has a huge investment in the iPlayer which performs this function (and much more) for UK residents. If I could pay to get a full iPlayer subscription, I probably would.

dxhound2005 · 11-05-2022 10:51am

This is from the Satellite UK forum 10 May, if it hasn't been noted here before.

BBC Two Northern Ireland HD

Astra 2E UK Beam

12226 H 27500 S2 8PSK 2/3 FTA

ID = 11015

No sound at the moment. Interesting that it's on a Sky transponder.

16-05-2022 12:27pm

BBC Three HD and BBC Three launch on Sky (169 and 845) in Ireland tomorrow ( 17th May).

theoneeyedman · 16-05-2022 12:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119045172#Comment_119045172

This is working with sound now, e channel I'd is still wrong but I watched the Ulster championship in HD yesterday which was nice

17-05-2022 1:46pm

BBC Three now on Sky in Ireland on 169 SD and 845 HD.

galtee boy · 17-05-2022 1:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119075281#Comment_119075281

It's the other way around on my my box, 169 is HD and 845 is SD ?

icdg · 17-05-2022 1:53pm

That’s how it should be following Sky’s own rules, HD swap should be implemented unless there are differences between HD and SD versions?

17-05-2022 2:36pm

Makes sense that the HD version should be higher up the epg.

Dodge · 19-05-2022 11:57am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119075783#Comment_119075783

It annoys me that this isn’t the case for some channels

dulpit · 19-05-2022 1:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119084632#Comment_119084632

I believe that it needs to be like-for-like for Sky to swap the channels. So if a HD channel is UK ads only and SD channel has Irish channels, they wouldn't be swapped. That shouldn't affect BBC though...

icdg · 19-05-2022 2:07pm

It affects BBC Two, but that’s down to the SD/HD versions not being the same again - BBC Two NI is only in SD (for the moment anyway).

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