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New Channels [NO DISCUSSION -NAME / FREQUENCY/ LCN / LAUNCH DATE ONLY]

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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Possibly the post-Brexit EU license issue raring it’s head again rather than rights issues as such. It’s an extra hassle for channels going on the Irish EPG that didn’t exist before and unless they are targeting Ireland either for advertising or subscriptions channels may just not bother in future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,624 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    The idea of those tickers on 'news' channels is to give the perception of something actually happening, rather than to provide actual information. It's largely a ruse, Sky Sport news are great at it - BREAKING NEWS! SECOND CHOICE FULL BACK FOR LEAGUE ONE SIDE CARRYING A KNOCK AND IS DOUBTFUL FOR JOHNSONS PAINT SECOND ROUND GAME NEXT WEDNESDAY,! and the likes

    This is an excellent thread, one I use to keep in touch with new channels as they appear and decide to tune them into my box and channel menus or not. The information is very useful.

    I don't know how useful though commenting on the actual content is. There is a lot of crap available FTA, but a lot of good stuff too. Where the line between crap and good stuff is very personal one, there is many channels I wouldn't tune into the box in a million years, but some people enjoy them, and I'm sure vice versa.

    Each to their own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,536 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The channels owners have not insignificant media holdings in Ireland, they may be pulling headlines from the Irish papers.

    Talksport has an Irish opt-out stream with presenters already so I wouldn't be too surprised if they even went as far as to put TalkTV and some of the radio on Saorview in future

    Will be interesting to see how GBN alike this channel goes. I suspect slightly less divisive but still fairly right wing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,216 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Have to agree. This was a great thread to get a heads up on a new channel but too much discussion on content etc is taking from it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    DS has noted in it's Sky Changes thread that Channel 4 HD with Irish adverts is to launch on the Sky Ireland EPG sometime in 2022.

    Some other interesting news regarding BBC Two NI HD on Sky & Freesat. A channel with the SID 11015 was carrying EPG data for BBC News HD. It was live on the Sky EPG in the UK, as well as Ireland maybe, for a brief period of time before it went off the EPG again a few days ago. A poster had mentioned on DS that it was for BBC Two.

    Also no updates are available yet about BBC Three appearing on the Sky EPG in Ireland. I wonder if this process is being delayed for the Irish market.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭stuartfanning


    Rupert Murdoch's Talk TV launches on Sky in the UK today at 7PM on channel 526. But it will not be available in the ROI I understand. Wonder why given that GB News is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven


    TalkTV


    Satellite: Astra 2E 28.5°E

    System: DVB-S2

    Frequency/Polarisation: 11427/V

    Symbol Rate: 29500

    FEC: 8/9



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Surprisingly slick and professional when compared to GB News. Excellent quality HD also.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Having seen a little bit of it, it's pretty obvious that it is basically Fox News UK with a less toxic name.

    The Graphics and presentation are basically Fox News in different clothing, the font, types of camera pan, the lower graphics are different colours, but unmistakably the kind that Fox have always gone for.

    Far more professional launch than GB News, but it's clearly a partisan channel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Yes clearly partisan, but then it probably has to be to gain audience share and differentiate itself from the other news channels.



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Spot the difference.

    The Five - Fox News US

    The Talk- TalkTV




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭GIMP


    Just watched this channel and a thought occurred to me, in a country of 5m people that we don't have at least one decent news channel, uk now has 4. Pity Newstalk wouldn't/couldn't take the initiative to launch a tv channel. Fantasy i know!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,303 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Dont forget the UK has a population of 67 million.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭MenloPete


    I really think it's time to split this into 'New Channel Announcements' and 'New Channel Discussion' threads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Mav11




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,303 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Can't see that working. If you have an announcement only thread it will be filled with chat anyhow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony




  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Just to be clear, if I do that and make it a hard rule, there will be warnings and bans for those who break it. I’d like to see more clearly that there is a problem in having one or two lines of discussion.

    Additionally, the Brexit licensing issue now seems to be rareing it’s head big time, I’m not sure if we need a sticky on it, new UK channels are not going to bother about going on the Irish EPG now unless they are selling advertising here or have a particular interest in being here. That said, I think that in not too long a time we are probably going to see more departures than arrivals on the EPG (in general) as the move of basic cable channels to streaming picks up. Watch what happens when Paramount+ launches and how long the Nickelodeon and CBS channels last after that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    I don't see any particular need to split this thread. After all it's not like there's a huge amount of traffic on it either way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭MenloPete




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,624 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    I think Chat about the channels coming and going is OK-what annoys me personally is the commenting on content, eg 'who'd watch that rubbish' or the likes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,303 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Couldn't agree more. There's a TV forum for those type of comments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,462 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    You'd be left scratching your head at who would watch certain channels, but somebody must be... I wonder roughly how much it would cost to get a basic SD channel onto Astra?

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭stanley1


    alibi, eden, gold are whats left to go FTA, the rest is a feast of appearing and disappearing transponders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,624 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    And has that cost dropped or something recently? The likes of GB News and TalkRadio TV are basically Radio stations in the TV, they will have a certain audience I guess, and they could be backed by some of the folks who backed Brexit and the likes, but you'd still wonder how they can make it pay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,299 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Can you get BBC3 FTA ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,624 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Yes. Shares location with Cbbc, only switches to bbc3 after 7pm.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Not a channel per se but Paramount+ launches on 22nd June, free to Sky Cinema subscribers, at a price for everyone else (the U.K. price will be £6.99pm, they haven’t announced the ROI price yet).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭mrtom




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,407 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Yes it will show after 7, no subscription required.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭petronius


    BBC 3 - is it really needed? Would be great to see BBC 1 +1, BBC 2 +1 and BBC 4 +1

    Is GB News and Talk TV eventually gonna merge? fishing in the same pond!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    BBC 3 is needed. Plus 1 channels are a waste of space, everyone has recorders now.


    GB news and talk TV won't merge, but I could see one failing. Suspect if either were to fail, it'd be gb news... Murdoch has too much money to allow talk tv fail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭dubrov


    I don't think BBC are blocked by the regulator from broadcasting BBC1/BBC2+1. Something about it would take too much market share from competitors. It would certainly be more popular than the likes of ITV, Channel 5 etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    You have to remember that BBC1 and 2 have many regional variations. To do a proper +1 service would add a lot more channels and transmission costs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    BBC3 HD is FTA after 19:00 on 10847 V 23000 3/4 DVB-S2 8PSK

    It shares the channel with CBBC. If you try to watch CBBC after 19:00 you will see and hear BBC3 but may get an error message. You should scan and add BBC 3 after 19:00 so that you have a separate entry for CBBC and BBC3



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Sometimes the regional channels show things at different times. BBC NI is often a +30 minute channel. SKY, Fresat, Enigma2 boxes all allow you to easily search for other instances of a program so you can juggle schedules. But late night programs might be subtitled.

    BBC3 HD shares the same transponder as BBC2 Wales HD, BBC Two HD, BBC One HD , BBC One NI HD (and timeshares with CBBC HD) so a decent box should be able to record them on one tuner and still and leave the second tuner free to watch/record something else.

    As others have pointed out UK viewers will have access to catchup from the internet via Freesat / Freeview equipment or websites or apps all of which are geoblocked because of funding from TV license fees.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    good god no, those + channels are a waste of bandwidth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭petronius



    ITV has regional variations STV, UTV, ITV Wales, Granada etc. and all have a +1 service. I get it not all would need to have it. BBC3/4 don't have regional so easier for them, and BBC 2 less regional variations. Maybe a single BBC1 +1 service could just be n/a (or BBC News for that 30mins etc.) when it would be re-broadcasting a regional variation?

    anyways just a thought



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,462 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    ITV etc. channels have commercial income so +1 channels can be profitable.

    BBC has a huge investment in the iPlayer which performs this function (and much more) for UK residents. If I could pay to get a full iPlayer subscription, I probably would.

    Scrap the cap!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,386 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    This is from the Satellite UK forum 10 May, if it hasn't been noted here before.

    BBC Two Northern Ireland HD

    Astra 2E UK Beam

    12226 H 27500 S2 8PSK 2/3 FTA

    ID = 11015

    No sound at the moment. Interesting that it's on a Sky transponder.



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    BBC Three HD and BBC Three launch on Sky (169 and 845) in Ireland tomorrow ( 17th May).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,624 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    This is working with sound now, e channel I'd is still wrong but I watched the Ulster championship in HD yesterday which was nice



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    BBC Three now on Sky in Ireland on 169 SD and 845 HD.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    It's the other way around on my my box, 169 is HD and 845 is SD ?



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    That’s how it should be following Sky’s own rules, HD swap should be implemented unless there are differences between HD and SD versions?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Makes sense that the HD version should be higher up the epg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    It annoys me that this isn’t the case for some channels



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    I believe that it needs to be like-for-like for Sky to swap the channels. So if a HD channel is UK ads only and SD channel has Irish channels, they wouldn't be swapped. That shouldn't affect BBC though...



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It affects BBC Two, but that’s down to the SD/HD versions not being the same again - BBC Two NI is only in SD (for the moment anyway).



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