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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,161 ✭✭✭wassie


    Post edited by wassie on


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What's the story in Vladivostock? Weird timing for a fire and can't think of any reason that would be good for us. Unless there's internal sabotage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Switzerland is like Ireland. Neutral. Swiss law prohibits arms sales into conflict zones. This is not new. To supply arms to Ukraine would require a law change and being Switzerland a law change would mean a referendum for the population to vote on. Switzerland adopting EU sanctions is already seen here as not being particularly neutral but given it is impossible to justify russias actions no fuss has really been kicked up. However actively supplying arms to another country involved in war would be a step too far for the Swiss. Just like Ireland is not really going to commit itself to doing anything in Ukraine either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    "Mariupol, the struggle continues!

    In inhuman conditions, children and women live, operations are carried out, human lives are saved.

    Soldiers of the Regiment "Azov", 36 brigades of marines and other units are firmly opposed in an unequal battle."

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    It was previously reported that the female military medic killed, was the last Dr in Mariupol, suggesting some crazily brave heroic medicos have actually gone there very recently. Smuggled in on that crazy mad desperate nighttime helicopter supply drop? That thing must have been flying below tree top height and between some.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭jackboy


    so they only export arms that cannot be used in conflict zones. What exactly are the arms for then?



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    There is a world where Azov can be both a reprehensible far right organisation and fighting on the correct side in this instance.

    What the misinformation wants people to do is eliminate any nuance from discussion and then use any wedge they can to paint the “other” as being entirely “Bad” because they are not 100% squeaky clean “good”. The scary thing is the number of people this seems to work on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭Perseverance The Second


    The 9th Confirmed loss of an SU-34 (Shot down a few days before the Spinning SU-34)

    Makes that at least 324,000,000 USD lost across just these 9 different airframes.

    Going to be very hard for Russia to replace any of these more advanced aircraft given the embargo's. 120 SU-34's left in service now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,545 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    The same, except the bit where neutral Switzerland has a large arms industry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭TheRepentent




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,441 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    This stuff is commonplace on Kremlin state TV. Every night, they have interviews with people claiming to be ecstatic at being "liberated" by the Putin forces and saying what monsters the Ukrainians are......it's completely divorced from any reality (the same liars claim Mariupol has been completely flattened by Ukrainian shelling i.e. Ukraine is using heavy artillery on its own cities, destroying everything and killing all its own civilians).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    "Appeal of the pilots of the Air Force of the Armed Forces

    of Ukraine to the international communityPolkovnik Yuriy Bulivka, fighter pilot of the 1st class:

    – I am the winner of several air shows in Europe, showed aerobatics figures on the Su-27, my friend and mentor – the legendary pilot-ace Alexander Oksanchenko, who had before represented the Ukraine at these shows, died on February 25 in the sky of Kiev.

    Even aerobatics of this level will not save the invaders from missiles. We need more modern aircraft to counter the enemy in the air.

    The American Falcon F-16, F-15, and maybe F-18, would be enough to tilt the advantage to our side. After all, these aircraft have powerful onboard radars, technological equipment, and most importantly – missiles with active homing heads.

    We have an action plan for the fastest retraining of pilots and aviation personnel.

    In order to quickly master this technique, decisions must be made now so that it is not too late."


    Interesting that these knowledgeable professionals think they could get usefully up to speed in a meaningful time frame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    That makes little sense as the minute you are attacked and put them to use, the Swiss will say 'no ammo or spares for you!'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Self-defence. Main buyers are Germany and Sweden I think. Switzerland is neutral but well armed in order to guarantee that neutrality. I don’t think that neutrality is for turning, it’s a central pillar of Swiss foreign policy and heavily supported by the Swiss people. Much like Ireland, I suspect neutrality doctrine woujd be challenged if the country itself was attacked. But like Ireland no-one has attacked in a long while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    "Ukraine has moved into a fundamentally new phase – the transfer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to NATO

    weapons The armed forces of Ukraine are beginning the transition to NATO weapons, which has not even been discussed recently.

    "We have moved into a completely new phase, which even two months ago no one thought about. We have moved into a fundamentally new phase, which even no one dreamed of – the transfer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to NATO WEAPONS, to the NATO standard. And this is already happening," Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said during an online inclusion on his Facebook page.

    The Minister also said that President Vladimir Zelensky was able to convince Joe Biden that it was time to do it.

    "And the howitzers came to us first, but this is only the beginning, much more will come to us. "This is a historic moment," Added Kuleba."

    Whoa, wait, what? Historic seems almost an understatement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Putin will blow his top, this after the defence ministers meeting as well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    But they are blocking munitions they sold to Germany and not recently , Germany is sending the weapons to another country , in this case Switzerland should stay in their hideaway and let Germany send their equipment to Ukraine



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Ukraine has been slowly moving to Nato standard over the last 8 years ,it's why they selected a new rifle that could be easily changed from Russian 7.62 to Nato 556 ,

    The biggest problem was they never had the funds to buy the newest kit available after the military being robbed blind by Russian leadership which was maintained through two peaceful uprisings.

    But nato needs to look at Moldova and other countries who very well may need arming in a hurry



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,441 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    A very interesting element is that NATO now sense that Russia can be crippled militarily by Ukraine with NATO's help. The Russian accusations that NATO are fighting a "proxy war" may well be correct in fact (but the ****s and their leader only have themselves to blame....they brought it all on themselves).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭Quitelife


    Putin is nuts and evil so anything is possible . Might as well take him on now rather than he gradually kill a million Ukrainians, Moldovans , Poles



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    Its almost like bullies not liking the odds turning against them. Cry me a river!


    I'd say Putin is throwing a full on tantrum in his throne room. Pity the poor apparatchik that has to deal with Putin tonight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    you are welcome to write to the Swiss parliament…. Each and every Swiss arms sale includes a clause that said arms will not be passed on to another country involved in an armed conflict. I don’t remotely see the Swiss changing their position on this. The Swiss will not arm the Ukrainians directly or indirectly. Not sure I would agree but I don’t see this changing.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    It's like that story of the Huey chopper in 60's America's misadventure in Vietnam that went down in the jungle; pilot error, mechanical failure, another minor tragedy to add to the pile, but nothing too untoward. Anyway, after weeks of searching it was never found. Vanished and declared as such. So they asked various US Army quartermasters if they had any stuff on it, and they all duly replied in the affirmative... As one pilot joked: No wonder the fúcking thing crashed it must have weighed eighty tons*. 😁

    That sorta thing, opportunities for young lads to go full Delboy Trotter happens in most militaries, or certainly tales from rellies of mine who were in the military backed that up. Sgt Bilko hit a nerve at the time because of all the lads who'd been in various services. But Russians take it to a whole new level. Did back in WW2 too. Another rellie who dealt with them at times in the immediate post war times told me that. There were always Allied lads grafting some scheme or other, minor smuggling and the like, but the Soviets would rob each other as well. He explained it away that the ones he dealt with were dirt poor from god knows where in the vast steppes and electric light came as a novelty for them. Though apparently their educated and urbane commisars were the worst for it, and they were still robbing Germans after the shooting stopped and trying to rob Allied guys too.

    I'd reckon kinda similar is in play today in Ukraine and Russia. Dirt poor young men from the provinces vassal regions and their officer class robbing their own blind and given somewhat of a free reign from the autocrats who fear the army getting too powerful and decisive. Now they actually have to fight a war and that shít is coming home to roost.


    *they actually weigh about two and can only get off the ground with about four all in.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Indeed. Go back to before this Russian invasion and Western media and Western government findings on Azov and other groups was the "concern" about the "rise of Far Right nationalists in Ukraine" with scary noises about them recruiting on facebook and other social media. The BBC who recently got all explanatory about how the stories are complex and the nazis are pretty much non-existent, bu yet the same BBC was previously creaming themselves over the Far Righ/Neo-nazi threat. As the BBC will about such things.

    Not unlike putin going on about "nazis" as the reason for his criminal war and how he's out to stamp them out, but was strangely silent on the matter when there were way more of them, they had way more political power. However they were his "nazis" then. A Ukrainian Wagner Group. Just as nationalist, just as xenophobic, just as White power, just as homophobic, just as socially hard conservative as he is. But now they're set against him and his narrative suddenly changes. Funny that.

    And because the same groups are now against Russia, as we are, our narrative suddenly changes too and rainbow flagged avatars on twitter are cheering them on. Funny that.

    Fúcking hilarious more like.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,061 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Russia making an accusation about something that's been done between the large powers of the world since the end of WW2 is... what, exactly? It's hardly revelatory, that's for sure. Less of an accusation and more of an explanation of why they're doing so poorly vs. their original objectives (and even current ones). Because lots of top class NATO weaponry is flooding into Ukraine to help the righteous side, and hopefully that will continue until the Russians are either driven out or will at least sit down to some proper negotiation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    In Sweden, a Russian teacher Eugenia Karlsson verbally attacked a ukrainian girl.

    Is it me or are the Russian women even more wicked and cruel than the men. The oul ones are vicious bitter old crones spitting bile.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    If the phone recordings are to be believed then they are worse than the men - hope she gets fired



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