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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭shillyshilly


    I imagine their initial plan was to use them as they advanced through Ukraine.....



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  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I would think so yes,but its long way from west to east is ukraine,logistics would be a challenge

    And Russia have surveillance satellites as well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭shillyshilly


    they were going to be welcomed with open arms, remember ? :-D

    Not sure the logic now, maybe they are key logistic points for Ukrainian forces hitting Russian forces now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,896 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Did you read the article or just the headline?

    It was reported that forces were attempting to recruit citizens in the breakaway region of Transdniestria, an unrecognised breakaway state that is internationally recognised as part of Moldova.

    The question is how close are Russia and Transnistria? Answer: close enough. How close are Russia and Moldova? Not really discussed in the article.



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  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes that was the initial plan until Russia retreated from Northern part of Ukraine around Kiyev and moved east to Donbass to regroup and start another offensive.

    Meaning Russia have shorter way to supplies than Ukraine have,sine most of Ukraines supplies comes trough Poland by rail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,783 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I was thinking they would just fly the troops into Transnistria, which I presume is how the existing 1,300 got there. Perhaps they would initially concentrate on taking over Moldova first.

    Something appears to be up. If it's not Russia's doing, then good.



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They'll find it a lot more difficult to fly troops over Ukraine into Transnistria now that they are at war with Ukraine, which is now armed to the teeth with Antiaircraft weapons. I don't think a Russian troop carrier would be welcome over NATO air space.



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well they are a breakway region of Moldova backed by Russia,same as part of Eastern Ukraine is and parts of Georgia is.

    And they are still Moldovan citizens just like people from eastern ukraine backed by Russia is Ukranian and people from south ossetia are Georgian.



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  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They are,and this the excuse Russia have used to invade Georgia and Ukraine,and now Moldova will be next.

    All part of Putins hybrid wafare,using his private armies,wagner group,night wolves,russian orthodox army and cossacks to destabilise a russian speaking region before they send «peacekeepers « to have an excuse to invade



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,896 ✭✭✭✭briany


    They are Moldovan citizens, but what I was originally talking about was this idea of Russia trying to invade Moldova as a whole. The feeling between Russia and Transnistria being representative of the feeling between Russia and Moldova would make as much sense as the feeling between the DNR and Russia being representative of the feeling between Russia and Ukraine, i.e. not much. So, while Russian soldiers might be welcomed into that breakaway region of Moldova known as Transnistria, their reception mightn't be so great if pushing west of the Dniester.



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That depends on how much influence Russia have on the Moldovan goverment.

    Moldova is depending on Russian gas,and Russia have used blackmail and trade wars as a weapon before to get what they want.

    EU commisioner Stefan Füle said in his statement in 2013 that he strongly condemned different types of pressure exercised by Russia on the European Union’s Eastern neighbors, especially Armenia, Moldova and Ukraine. He said that it was unacceptable to use threats like misuse of energy pricing, artificial trade obstacles and cumbersome customs procedures, against ex-Soviet states which are seeking closer ties with the EU. He was convinced that such actions clearly breached the principles to which all European states had subscribed, recalling that in the Helsinki Principles of the OSCE, signatories had committed themselves to respect each country’s right to define freely and conduct as it wished its relations with other states in accordance with international law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Two radio towers in Transniestria taken out by explosion according to interwebs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The biggest am radio towers used by Russia to flood Ukraine and elsewhere with propaganda



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Moldova is hardly taking advantage of the Ukraine situation considering how weak they are. Would be a big risk for them. Might be Moldova paramilitaries?!



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Probably a russian false flag so they have an excuse to send «peacekeepers» to liberate Moldova



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,896 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Don't know if it does depend on the Moldovan government, really, because if the Moldovan people west of the Dniester aren't willing to put up with Russian soldiers on their land, they can make any occupation problematic. We saw in Ukraine in the previous decade that if the people aren't having it, a Russian-controlled government won't make much difference to that fact.



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It depends as we have seen with former Russian puppet president in Ukraine that backstabbed the people of Ukraine by doing a deal with Russia instead of EU.

    And leading to where we are now with the invasion of Ukraine.

    We dont how deep the Moldovan goverment are in Russias pocket either.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,308 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    From the Guardian:

    The Euromoney website is today carrying a new interview with Kyrylo Shevchenko, governor of the National Bank of Ukraine. He tells the economic magazine about his daily routine and how it has changed, saying:

    My day begins with news about the situation on the frontlines and a quick review of data on the standing of the banking system and financial markets. It used to feel like I had workdays and weekends. The feeling of there being weekends is now gone. My team and I have stopped bothering with dress code and other formalities.

    Shevchenko says that the experience of the coronavirus pandemic meant they were already flexible with remote working, and that they had an emergency plan for keeping the banking system running after the 2014 annexation of Crimea from Ukraine by Russia. He says all financial decisions being taken at the bank have the goal of keeping the economy running until the war is won.

    All of the central bank’s activities are now guided by the military situation. Our main goal is to ensure Ukraine’s financial stability even as Russian wages its war of aggression, and to help end this war as soon as possible, in particular by weakening the aggressor’s ability to finance it. The stable and uninterrupted operation of the banking system, should not be taken for granted. It has come at a price. This resilience has been the result of constant coordinated efforts by the NBU and banks.

    However, the most striking part of the interview comes when he is asked if he has a message for his counterpart at Russia’s central bank, Elvira Nabiullina.

    “I recommend that she read the biography of Walther Funk,” is all Shevchenko has to say.

    As Eric Ellis, who conducted the interview, notes in the piece, Walther Funk was the governor of Germany’s central bank during the second world war. He was tried at Nuremberg and dubbed “the Banker of Gold Teeth” for his role in ensuring the confiscated possessions of holocaust victims, including their gold teeth, made their way back into the Nazi economy. Convicted as a war criminal, he died in 1957 after receiving a life sentence of imprisonment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,308 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Not just Nazi's, but gay Nazi's. Next up it will be gay Nazi Islamic terrorists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Satanist drug addict gay Nazis. That's a royal flush.

    I wonder what they'd think if they saw bingo night in the George - would we be worth a special military operation?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,308 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    If true, this is why countries need to cut those links as soon as is feasible




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,308 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



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    "Putin" interchangeable with "Putin and the far left"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,308 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    "If you dare suggest that the country we are invading hit anything on our mainland we'll try to kill their leaders and any of your leaders who might be there with them"



    Russia warns Britain of immediate 'proportional response' for 'provoking' Ukraine to attack

    Russia’s defence ministry has warned of an immediate “proportional response” if Britain continues its “direct provocation” of Ukraine to strike targets in Russia, Reuters reports.

    The ministry cited statements from the UK’s armed forces minister, James Heappey, that said Britain backs Ukrainian troops carrying out strikes in Russian territory. Speaking earlier today, Heappey said it was “not necessarily a problem” if Ukraine uses weapons donated by Britain.

    Russia’s defence ministry said:

    We would like to underline that London’s direct provocation of the Kiev regime into such actions, if such actions are carried out, will immediately lead to our proportional response.

    As we have warned, the Russian Armed Forces are in round-the-clock readiness to launch retaliatory strikes with high-precision long-range weapons at decision-making centers in Kyiv.

    The ministry added that if such Russian strikes were made, it would not necessarily be a problem if representatives of a certain Western country were located at those “decision-making centres” in Kyiv.



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You've got a nice country there UK, be a shame if anything happened to it 😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,783 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    It's very interesting what he's doing as I couldn't work it out a first. He's lasing the top of the trees to get the missile to head for those and get some height, then while it's in flight, he swings the laser back down to the tank so the missile curves down in an arc to the target.

    I'd imagine that gets a bit more range out of the system and is just better all round so the missile ian't ground skimming all the way and ends up taking out a clothes line, fence wire or some shrubbery. Don't want to leave it too late or you waste an expensive missile coppicing some trees and an angry tanker sends something back your way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    This is a powerful sight no Russian soldiers or generals want to see




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  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes and some of the russian tanks might have laser warning system,since the stugna P is a SACLOS laser beam riding missile,thats why they point them up high first,and its also to get the missile higher over obstacles offcourse.



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