Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Margret must have not logged out on Friday & locked the spreadsheet

They're not sure what it is. They're calling it of "unknown origin", and have variously found Adenovirus and Covid in some cases, and no viruses in others. Maybe it's a range of causes.

Mitigation is now a busted flush in terms of the public at large. FFP2 masks have some limited effectiveness, but standard masks are completely useless and hard core lockdowns demonstrably don't work. Improve air quality may be of some benefit but cannot address the primary location in which spread occurs - private homes.

Mitigation for the public at large worked until Omicron came along. Now we have nothing. We can protect discrete locations like cancer wards and similar, but public spaces and even entire buildings are simply not a possibility.

We have a widely uptaken vaccination programme, effective antivirals and solid booster plan in place. That's all we can actually do now. Nothing else works anymore.

I'd really like to know where we stand on COVID, I am 60 plus and WFH since it all kicked off, and basically have gone no where except the odd break in Ireland since then, but I am really getting fed up with the situation and the muddled messaging that we get.

I took first jab in April 21, booster at start of December and now I'm guessing I'll be asked to get another one in the next few weeks. that will be 4 jabs.

Basically, if we are getting jabs every 3/4 months (that's what it averages out for me) should we (plus 60 brigade) not just go back to normal and live life and then just treat Covid as a cold/ mild flu and not even take a test unless we feel we have something more severe? Otherwise aren't the jabs a total waste of time, because if we go nowhere, we won't catch it, even without a vaccine.

Should government not just make a statement to say this is the new flu and explain that people need to take the Covid vaccine as they would a standard flu vaccine by a certain age or according to their own personal vulnerability. In other words it would not be compulsory to take it.

Don't kid yourself , masks work

Saying mask worked as blanket statement is not accurate.

Yes some masks (n95 etc) were shown to have some benefit. But cloth masks were shown to be no better than no masks according to the Bangladesh study and is only 1 of 2 RCT trails done on mask. The othe being the Danish study. Both only showed marginal effects with surgical masks.

While it's a bit of a moot point now, telling people that masks work might actually end lulling people into a false sense of security, thinking they're more protected that they actually are.

The biggest risk to spreading covid was a covid infected person. The mask was just a symbolic tool to make people think the pandemic was deadly enough to warrant then actually caring about it. Because covid is, in the vast majority of cases, only something you know you have when you do a test.

There were 2 good RTC studys done on masks, one was the Danish study the other was the Bangladesh study.

Why would I need to to explain anything. The studys were done.

You say this ...over and over . I have seen you say this to other posters . It's not true , or doesn't mean what you think it means .

It's there in black and white in both studys. Both are peer reviewed and published. You can choose to believe it or not that's your call.

Spamming.... Lol..

Really? Approx 1 in 3 infected with covid develop novel post viral syndromes?

How can this be accurate information? Is this confined to a specific cohort, because there’s no possible way of all the people I know who have contracted covid, 30% have developed a ‘novel’ post viral symptom.

Re Hepatitis, it’s not unusual to have outbreaks of unknown origin and unexplained spikes of unexpected viruses, this nonsense of attributing them to covid is tiresome. If science proves it so - then accepted, otherwise it’s just a lazy way of upkeeping fear of covid, which in actuality is now just another virus, admittedly particularly prevalent and contagious, but one that is no more unusual than other viruses despite vested interest parties attempting to convince us to the contrary.

In fact it’s probably less mysterious than other viruses that have historically had less opportunity and funding for research and remain equally not fully understood.