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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Why would they be close to collapsing? They're still selling gas and oil, and while there are sanctions, I'd imagine it's not hard to go around them by buying the banned goods from China or India or somewhere similar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,062 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Military effort collapsing or the Russian state collapsing. Neither seems imminently likely, but collapses can happen suddenly due to a combination of internal stresses not always nakedly visible.

    I remember people saying, over a month ago, that the Russians only had financing of their war for another week, but they have been able to trundle on, though not terrifically convincingly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    If they are spending more (paying for the war and paying to prop up the ruble) then they are earning from selling oil and gas (oil which they have had to severely discount for China/India to buy) then it's unsustainable.

    What banned goods would you be referring to?

    China won't bypass sanctions on airplane parts, so they can't look to China for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,475 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    I'd wonder if they have the manpower to sustain or even make another offensive. They will need full general mobilisation if they want to push forwards. Either that of find some way to significantly reduce the losses in manpower and equipment they are currently experiencing.

    I think what they currently have mobilised is what's really left. One big last push, which has probably yet to start. But after that, if it fails, I'm not sure they have anything left in the tank other than strategic weapons.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Putin is also hamstringed by this being a "special operation" rather than a war.

    Their losses so far are catastrophic. It would seem they have lost probably close to between 30-40% of their best tank forces.

    Obviously, in a war-time footing, under normal circumstances, these losses could be replaced.

    But they are not on a war footing, likely won't be given the circumstances, and they are also crippled by sanctions which affects their ability to build replacement weapons including tanks.

    I really cannot see how the Russian military can sustain these losses and keep throwing meat into the grinder much longer. It seems they are angling for one great "prize" they can call a success before engaging in negotiations that allow them to slither home.

    The Russian military won't inherently collapse but it will become increasingly ineffective under the current scope of the conflict until it eventually turns into a WWI style attrition war with no sign of resolution on the horizon.



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    Russia raped and murdered through Eastern Europe in WW2. They did not free anyone, they forced communist dictatorships on these countries and set them back decades. One murderous regime was swapped for another. Some argue Stalin was worse than Hitler purely based on the numbers murdered.

    So no, nobody outside of Russia needs to allow any celebrations of the murderers and rapists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭storker


    they convert far more of their fuel in the blast, so outside of the intial radiation pulse, they don't leave much radioactivity after a few weeks and radioactive effects on people fall off sharply with distance

    You're ruining Fallout 3 for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭kitsy13


    Great camera pan shots in the zelenskyy interview session tonight..panned to the train station sign a few times , here I am come get me ..big f**k you to putin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I'd actually question if they can hold the land bridge to Crimea and further afield to Odesa. Half the battle is taking it, the other half is keeping it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,371 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Accounts from victims of Russian military rapes in Ukraine.

    Told how they went from house to house and wrote down who was in the house, men, women, children. Then came back and took mobile phones away.

    It goes on. It's in Russian so google translate is your friend. Horrific that this is happening, has happened very recently.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    A spineless turd more concerned with serving his own ego than real integrity.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,441 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I've seen lots of posts from Ukraine about this poor young woman and her baby on social media this evening.

    The Russkis sure as hell know how to lose a PR war. With every passing day, the level of absolute contempt for them from outside the country is growing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Wildlife Actor


    There’s a passage in Ernest Hemingway’s novel The Sun Also Rises in which a character named Mike is asked how he went bankrupt. “Two ways,” he answers. “Gradually, then suddenly.”

    The sanctions need time. Russians are tough and used to hardship, and what's going on under the bonnet of the economy will be kept hidden from the masses, but unless they reach a deal on the war the collapse will come hard when it does come.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,033 ✭✭✭jmreire


    The problem with Afghanistan ( one of them anyway) was it was either all or nothing. Neither Bagram or Kandahar bases were viable on their own. They would be a lightening rod for never ending attacks. Now, at least it's Afghan V Afghan. No more western interference to blame all their ill's on. ( of course, there's the small matter of isis to contend with, but that's a Taliban problem now)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭argolis


    Didn't see this posted earlier, claims that Ukrainian forces took out a command centre which had two generals in it, along with a lot of command staff

    https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3465606-ukraine-army-destroys-enemy-command-operations-center-eliminates-two-russian-generals.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭auspicious


    Russia won't stop.

    The longer the war continues the less there will be left of Ukraine; the people, the culture, the way of life. That's what I said.

    There's no flith in my words. The only filth is war.



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    Russia won't stop?

    What does that mean. Russia is a corrupt, backwards, brutal dictatorship flexing muscle it thought it had, but (rather embarrassingly) finds it doesn't have the power it expected.

    You'll see your show ponies march through red square next month, but know those prancing soldiers are effectively actors and not representative of actual Russian soldiers.

    Russia IS stopped in Eastern Ukraine (do some research) and it only gets worse for Russia from here. But, don't worry, Russia won't be invaded. They are welcome to their dystopian paradise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭Homelander


    So what you're saying is, every time a nation launches an invasion of another, smaller, sovereign country, they should just roll over and accept occupation, cleansing, and cultural erosion, as was the tradtion 100 years ago in the era of Hitler and Stalin.

    Filth is too good a word for the likes of yourself with your blatantly transparent agenda.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,033 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes the filthy war will stop ( and the sooner the better) but no matter when it will stop finally, Russia will be the loser,,,they're losing already , even if it does not seem like that. Where do you see an ever weakening Russia and an increasingly powerful Ukraine 6 mths ( or less) from now? No matter what they take territory -wise, Ukraine will never let them keep it. And rightly so, and as for what will be left of the Culture and People?. Remember that there's 40+ million of them, and all of them prepared to fight for their future. No, when Putin's invasion is only a memory, Ukraine will still exist, proud and strong.

    Something another Poster said a few pages back, but it's worth repeating. Quote:-

    Dzoker Dudaev , Chechan President.

    The first president of the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria.

    A real Chechen with a capital letter, to whom today's rabble of Kadyrov is no match (and, in principle, it is difficult to call them Chechens).

    Dudaev was wise and smart. And Russia does not tolerate such people.

    About Ukraine, he said this:

    The biggest mistake is to neglect the Ukrainians. Consider Ukrainians weak. Offend the Ukrainians. Never offend Ukrainians. Russia will end when the Ukrainian sun rises.” UnQuote

    Under the circumstance's, might be worthwhile bearing his words in mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    Russia won't stop on its own because is too deluded for it, but already is and will be stopped by others.

    And the longer the war continues I only see growth of strength of Ukrainians and growth of respect of the World for Ukrainians. Material damages will be rebuild. With Russian's money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,456 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    The same user dropped the same rhetoric in a few days ago and then ran away, no doubt they'll be back next week with the same thing, while pretending to be anti-war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭auspicious


    I haven't really been following the news. Just doing what I can through other means.

    Could I ask you why is Russia deluded and who are the others?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    This is a bit of a slap in the face for Zelenskiy - yeah I'll get to you soon, but I need to meet the invader first so just hang tight there

    You know the same UN that voted to kick out Russia for all the crap they're doing but they come first when they need a chin wag - almost as bad as Germany's back peddling (which I see another company calling them out today by proffering aid if the government says ok)

    UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres will visit Turkey on Monday before travelling to Moscow and Kyiv, the UN said.

    Guterres will meet with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who has hosted peace negotiations, before visiting Moscow on Tuesday to visit Russian President Vladmir Putin.

    On Thursday, Guterres will travel to Kyiv.



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    And everyone is questioning Joe Bidens health?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This is a message Putin,Russian army and Chechens will understand better ,and you dont have to be russian speaking to understand.


    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭Detritus70


    Certainly not mincing their words. 😲

    Understandable.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    Or, Ukraine's president can look on it as an opportunity to pick Guterres' brains after a very fresh meeting with Putin. Even if one assumes insult where none was intended, the smart thing to do is make sure you're using it to your own advantage.



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