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Lightyear (Pixar, 2022)

  • 27-10-2021 3:37pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭


    The first teaser trailer for Lightyear has dropped. Apologies if a thread for this exists already, but you know... Search...¯\_(ツ)_/¯






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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Look, if someone wants to make a fun, epic story of Space Adventure, I'm here for it.

    But I can't get over how weird this venture is: an earnest spin-off of the fictional toy upon which a character from a different series is based. And I guarantee there'll be "Lightyear" toys too. Imagine even trying to explain that to a cinemagoer in (say) the 1960s.



  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    You mean it won't end with him being caught in some sort of inter-dimensional space anomaly that culminates in him being transported to alternate reality where he is a toy? I am disappoint.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    It really is odd, are there any plans for a similar treatment of Woody's Roundup?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    It's like Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game.

    I'm assuming this is a theatrical release?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    I'd watch this. They could also do a remake of Cowboys And Aliens while they're at it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Barrel-scraping IP extraction from Disney after they already tarnished Toy Story with the unnecessary fourth film. The sad thing is, the likes of Luca and Soul go straight to Disney+ and this gets a cinematic release. I fully anticipate this to do really well, while their original title Seeing Red flops, leading to only Pixar's reboots/sequels/prequels getting cinematic releases.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Buzz Lightyear has hair 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,064 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Yeah think you may well prove to be correct unfortunately. Which is very sad.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭OU812


    I disagree. It’s a novel approach to extending the franchise which came to an end. Puts a twist on it & makes it interesting to both an existing and new audience without detracting from the original movies.


    And they absolutely should do a Disney+ TV series of “Woodys Roundup”. Amazed they haven’t to be honest.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    I genuinely do think this looks really fun, I'm just confused by the canon of it. I don't know why they've even bothered to try justify it by saying it's about the influence for the toy. There was a cartoon in the 2000s and it was just space adventures, it didn't have to explain itself.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    I'm sceptical of him only having one word in the trailer.

    Presumably they don't want anyone to know its not Tim Allen doing the voice



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Could just be he hasn't recorded his lines yet? Couldn't imagine there's that much resting enthusiasm for Tim Allen that his absence would be a red flag for audiences.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    A new trailer arrived for this... a better sense of the movies structure, such as it is.




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    I think it looks really good tbh. Pixar doing playing with scifi in the same way they played with the superhero genre is ok by me.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It looks like fun, and I am warming to it - probably because of its setting and genre. But I'll never shake the itch of where and how this film comes to be. To the point I might wonder if it'll flop; kids wanting Buzz Lightyear, not Mr Lightyear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    I look forward to the Pixar film 15 years from now which tells the story of the real cat that was the inspiration behind Socks, the robot companion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    I have boycotted any Toy Story related film since the job shaming joke in Toy Story 4. They included Sid in the film working as a garbage truck man. I think they made him be a garbage truck man because he was a villian in the first film and wanted to degrade the character. There is a strong job shaming culture in America, another example I seen was in Frasier when Roz dumped her boyfriend because he was a garbage truck man.


    Also, i was watching a video recently which examined how there were many hidden adult themes in Toy Story 1. For example Woody jerking the microphone and the microphones eyes rolling. This doesn't sit easy with me, it is quite messed up for all those hidden sex references to be in a children's film. I think there is a lot of that in Disney movies but I haven't researched them yet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    I also forgot to mention that the famous phrase from Toy Story actually has a hidden sexual meaning. "snake in my boot" meant "penis in my booty". I would say the cactus on Woody's boot has hidden sexual meaning too. It is sick that we've had this hidden sexual content shown to us from early childhood.

    Another is the actual names of the characters, woody and buzz. Woody is reference to a dildo and buzz is reference to a vibrator. Buzz being the new toy replacing the woody. I never picked up on this stuff but when I watched the examination video it all fell into place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,977 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Just because someone made those interpretational connections doesn't necessarily mean they were at all in the minds of the creators... For instance Woody has always been seen as a reference to Woody Strode, the actor famous for Westerns, while Buzz was always seen as a reference to Buzz Aldrin for obvious reasons.

    "There's a snake in my boot", also long predates Toy Story as a western/cowboy term, was apparently a way of saying something felt wrong, like a sense of foreboding. And apparently was even used as an equivalent to the way we talk about 'the fear' after drinking. (and also just the very literal and rational fear of, y'know, being out in the wilderness and finding a snake in your boot...)

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭OU812


    Dude, you’re doing yourself a disservice

    Toy Story 6 is the super rare “Godfather 2 of animation”.

    A sequel so good it surpasses the original.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭OU812


    So many toy opportunities in that trailer alone. I’m predicting 3 x box office on merchandise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,031 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I was kind-of shocked by the “hooker” joke in the first Toy Story movie. But I would never have seen it without it being pointed out. It’s normal to have some adult jokes in animation. Monsters vs. Aliens is full of them.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    ewe 😁



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The UAE and Malaysia have banned the film 'cos it'll contain a lesbian kiss. As outlets speculate, one wonders if this will mean more Muslim countries follow suit - or indeed, other conservative markets like Russia/China.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭santana75


    Saw this earlier and it starts off really well, for the first half hour or so it's a cracking film. But it just loses momentum after that and I found my attention drifting and by the end I'd kind of checked out. It's a shame because like I said it starts off so well and there was real potential for something special here. After the success of Top Gun Maverick I think disney will need to reconsider their "Woke" approach, its not working. People know instinctively when they're being lectured to and told what they should like and dislike and that expression "Go woke, go broke" has some validity to it. Anyway its an Ok film all in all but it could've been a lot better.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭speedboatchase




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    One wonders what the projections for this were, especially given two better-reviewed Pixar movies were "downgraded" to Disney+ releases. Presumably the belief was the adjacent Toy Story brand power would have audiences clammering?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Haven't seen it yet but Kermode's review really pissed me off because it seems like he went in expecting a Toy Story movie and was comparing to them throughout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,666 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    A solid flop by all accounts, seems like the money men at Disney will need to take the creatives out to the wood chipper lol

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,144 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Yeah, that's a CRAZY quick turnaround. TBH though, once upon a time this would have been a straight-to-video/DVD release. Not saying that is a cheap and nasty poorly-animated product to churn out just to make a few bob..... Well... Not EXACTLY saying that.

    I mean this did smack of an easy, if not stellar (No pun intended) cash-in. Sort of like the stuff Disney used to churn out: Sequels concentrating on side characters or retelling the same story from different points of view (So they can re-use/copy animation from original).Which is a pity because there are obviously some very talented animators/technical teams involved.

    Pixar just about got away with Toy Story 4: It wasn't needed but it didn't tarnish the brand (And Keanu Reeves was hilarious). But come on now."Live action" remake after remake, inferior sequel after sequel (Monsters University was a SPECTACULARLY missed opportunity. So much potential but barely touched).

    In the breath of 15 years Pixar gave us:

    • A perfect Toy Story trilogy with a very definite start, middle and finish. A heartbreaking but uplifiting trilogy that aged along with its audience.
    • An insect version of The Magnificent 7 (My least favourite of early Pixar)
    • A story about blue-collar 9-5 workers who just so happen to scare kids for a living
    • A very simple story about family and loss and moving on... with fish
    • A superhero movie
    • A story about the benefits of slowing down and appreciating life... as a car
    • A chef rat (I must watch that again. Haven't seen it in years)
    • A lost and abandoned robot who finds love
    • Another heartbreaking story about loss and moving on but at a VERY human level.... plus talking dogs


    I'm not gonna go all Scorsese and shake my fist as sequels and remakes..... Just POINTLESS sequels ad remakes 😀. I mean, honest to god, did we NEED a "live action" version of The Lion King? THE LION KING!!!! IMHO, the pinnacle of Disney. I remember seeing first time round and then a few years ago when re-released. The cinema was packed even second time round. Kids clung to the seat in front. More than a few sniffles (From kids and adults) when Mufasa died. Really? You want to remake that with uncanny-valley digital animals?

    And they (And Disney) have released some great animated movies since, of course. Turning Red, Frozen (OK, OK, we know "that" song was played to death but it is still a good movie with a nice message), Moana.


    But.... I don't know, there sems to be a stagnation at the moment. Maybe it IS just cheap-and-nasty stuff to fill in the Disney+ hours.....

    TLDR: Old man (me) bemoaning the latest stagnation of Disney/Pixar



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