Kildare farmer objects to €8bn Intel investment...

Brian? wrote: »

Longer than that. I left in September 2018 and they'd started digging the hole before that.

The hole they're digging is for the new fab. Seems they want all fabs on the same level, so gotta dig down through what I believe to be rock to make the new site for the new fab.

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The construction that I speak of is on the reclaimed land. Of course, they could be just putting whatever they're putting together there, before moving it elsewhere. But it's good that they are building.

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It'll be interesting what Blaystore Developments will do with Collinstown House, now that it's out of view.

Calling him a doofas is massively underestimating him. He is anything but. He is a very smart man, if rather ececntric. Whether he is a good or bad farmer or a good or bad hurler, or golfer, or alpaca wranglers is of no relevance whatsoever. He has every right to make a submission on a planning as many applications as he sees fit, no more or less right than any one of us.

He has single handedly, without the aid of a team of planning experts or lawyers, taken on Intel and the IDA in the courts and largely won. He has kept his land. It might be a mild setback or inconvenience for intel, but it is a total victory for Mr Reid. He had clearly self educated himself on plannning and evironmental law to the point where he could take the matter to the Supreme Court.

Is there any one of ye here who could achieve a similar feat?

Who is the doofas now?

The man is a hero. Took on a shower of chancers lying through their teeth trying to steal his property out from under him and beat them in the Highest Court of the land

The reason he defeated the CPO was that the IDA were trying to CPO his land for no actual official reason. They tried to pretend that they might just need it. They stuck to that line and eventually the SC found that it was a load of sh1te.

The IDA wanted to take the land (private property) in order to then hand it over to a private enterprise. But they couldn't admit to that. So they pressed ahead anyway and basically refused to admit what they were doing. They thought that they could bully and streamroll the "thick farmer". But he beat all the well paid teams of managers and consultants and legal teams.

Let's consider a slight extrapolation of what they wanted to do. Your neighbour Jim buys a second car and wants to widen his driveway and take in a piece of your front garden. He knows you won't consent to that. But the following Monday his buddy Tom from the Council arrives out and tells you that the Council need to CPO a 2m strip from your driveway for strategic reasons.

You know what's going on - they're going to take it from you and then hand it over to the neighbour. But the Council buddy Tom just lies to your face and says "nope. We know nothing about that. Ah my buddy Jim, no, sure I never met him. We need it for strategic reasons. You'll be hearing from our solicitors next week about it"

It wasn't "at you". It was adding to yours. There are obviously other posters, as evidenced by posts above, who didn't understand what went on.

You really think people dont know what went on? I think at this stage most on here are well aware as to Mr Reid's battle and victory against his CPOs. I'd have thought that by now the only misunderstanding (as evidenced repeatedly here) would be from people labouring under the impression that his recent case was still him fighting the IDA to keep his land and that Intel were still trying to take it from him.

Well, it would appear that plenty don't understand what went on.

You might know, but there is no need to get triggered or annoyed if someone posts something that you already know.

Do you survey everyone before each post you make yourself in case "everyone knows" it already or not?

I was curious and questioning as to why you felt the need to quote me and explain, at some length, what happened in case number 1 when I agreed with you that he deserved to win his CPO case. Maybe because I didn't agree with your opinion that he's a hero? Because I really don't think he is a hero.

That doesn't equate to being annoyed or triggered, although maybe it does in your head.

And surely then, since justice was seen to be done first time around, then you will agree that justice has been seen to be done this time too, when he has been allowed use the full extent of his constitutional rights in his case? The fact that he was ruled against doesn't mean that justice hasn't been served.

The CPO case was one thing, and he won that fair and square. But to be fair, this current case did not affect his land. He was going after the IDA/Intel here as more or less as a vendetta to inflict more hassle and pain on Intel for the hassle they caused him.

To be honest, I think the more that can be extracted from the likes on Intel the better. Even legal representation for them, is usually local or Irish law or consultancy firms so that is more money flowing into regional economy. Intel do not give 2 sh!ts about ireland or irish people. They are a corporate behemoth here for their own convenience. We owe it to Ireland and Irish people to milk the intel cow for all it is worth while keeping it just sweet enough to stay in our field.

I’m curious, who is going to pay court costs for this case?