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What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    And the real funny thing is there is not one real mention of that in the mainstream Irish media.

    We have programs on RTE about how we need to be really careful about homophobia in our society, but not a single mention of the fact that a lot of the ones imported into this country over the last 20 years are coming from deeply homophobic backgrounds.

    Do the fookers in RTE have a brain cell or a set of balls between them.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,544 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Neither of which have opened their own home to refugees. Easier talk big and do nothing, like most of the people supporting the current government ‘plan’. People support these initiatives until they get the bill and are negatively impacted by it then attitudes flip.



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its an awful pity that some more of the posters on here don't have a few friends or family that might open their minds to something other then their own insular thinking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    If someone finds Ireland and Irish people not to their liking then why don't they just fook off and do us all a favour ?

    This is something that always bemuses me with the constant coverage about DP conditions - especially when those complaining are already here several years.

    It's not a prison camp... nothing stopping them going home/trying their luck elsewhere! I'd be happy to pay extra taxes to directly fund that and deportations of rejected applicants generally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,407 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack




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  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I will freely admit, again, to assisting folks who arrived here illegally. I have previously posted that I know many going through the process. I have also posted evidence of some of them getting their letters saying they are now legal.

    Why you feel the need to make a personal attack because I don't subscribe to the xenophobic diatribe around here, well, that says more about you than me. Either way it makes little difference to me, I'll be happily helping out a few more folks to gain legal status regardless.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    TBH I've never really understood the expectation that AS should be permanent... surely, once you've been set up with an income, and a place to live, you'd be able to head off elsewhere under your own steam, like any other migrant? The only scenario I can think of is when you're in actual fear of some shady organisation or nation, but realistically speaking, what protections from them are you getting from living in Ireland? It's not exactly witness protection.

    Like the gay lads coming to Ireland because they're persecuted in SA... does Ireland really need to provide Asylum for them? Doesn't sound like a real motive for claiming asylum. I always wonder at the reasons behind a lot of these AS claims. Do they really need to be granted Asylum, or shouldn't they be treated as migrants that just need an initial start to get set up?

    So, shouldn't there be a suggestion of a limit on AS in terms of how long it lasts, cause I've never really seen that anywhere. Has anyone else seen something? Oddly enough, three years in DP would likely shake off anyone that was pursuing you.. and give you the time to get some educational qualifications online. Why would Ireland need to provide more... ?

    I dunno. It sounds too much like an excuse to justify more immigration. Yes, there are some definite and obvious cases for asylum.. but as with the term racism, have we (perhaps) lost sight of what the word and practical implications refer to?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    It really goes to show ya, the state of mind of a lot of the people in this country.

    Someone got murdered a few months ago and everyone assumed in their heads the murderer was Irish. We had twitter run up a frenzy telling us men were to blame...telling us we need to talk to our brothers....telling us it needs to be fixed in primary schools...

    Then the identity was revealed...and it turns out that things like education in primary schools wouldn't have mattered a jot!

    A catchy phrase that gained popularity was..."it's not all men, but it's always men"...I'd like to see the reaction to twitter if any other group was categorised like this.

    Not all men =

    Not all [insert group here] = ✔️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    It went from "We need to talk to our father's, brothers, sons, uncles" to "The National Party and the Far Right will have a field day with this. Don't let the Racist bigots prevail."



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There is a limit on asylum seekers.

    It lasts until a decision is made on their application.

    Human rights violations in their.own country is a legitimate reason to seek asylum elsewhere



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    I don't know bubbly. But there is a mistaken belief that we have Open Borders in Ireland.

    We quite clearly don't. What we do have is a problem with enforcement of our asylum laws, particularly around deportation of failed Asylum Seekers.



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The asylum system really should be very much quicker. A few months at most. There wouldn't be an issue with DP if it was genuinely only a few months. People also seen to think there has to be two gardai physically removing one person from the state, there doesn't, people leave (& yes, some people don't)

    if people hold a mistaken belief, then that is their own fault really, they should educate themselves.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Who believes we have open borders in Ireland? One or two posters, perhaps?

    As for Bubbly's claim, there is no limit for numbers on AS (a simple google search shows the lack of any such limit, otherwise complaints/criticisms would abound). If their claim is approved, they're in, and then, they renew their status every three years. Its as simple as that. But there is no limit on numbers, either in total or over any particular period. Nor, is there any requirement to shift from AS status to another more common status such as a working visa, or temporary residency, after a certain period. It entirely depends on their interview/negotiations with the public service.

    As for the open borders vs deportation aspect.. we do have problems with immigration policies being too lax in certain areas (not just deportations), and the ability of certain groups, including our politicians, to bypass those requirements. That's why people make claims about open borders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    You're incorrect - it'll make a HUGE difference to you and everyone else in the fullness of time - including the illegals you're helping to get rewarded for breaking our laws... not something I'd be proudly thumping my chest over myself, but howandever...

    I am not talking 30/40/50 years either. We're already starting to see the problems with "feelz good" policy-making on this issue in certain parts of North Dublin, the greater Blanchardstown area and elsewhere, and these problems will be increased by adding still more people who clearly have no respect for our laws, our citizens, or our country as it is (except merely as a teat to feed on). Speaking of feeding on, these policies always gloss over or outright ignore how such fantasies are to be actually sustained and paid for - beyond the "can't someone else do it?"/Magic Money Tree of course!

    As for the "personal attack", it's always funny how the "virtuous" cry foul when called out, yet have no problem levelling phrases like "xenophobic diatribe", "racists", or whatever other -ist or -phobe is in vogue on Twitter this week (side note: I REALLY miss :rolleyes: from this disaster of a new site), but I find it's generally because they simply CAN'T articulate their reasoning beyond the aforementioned "feelz" emotion-driven arguments.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    As for the "personal attack", it's always funny how the "virtuous" cry foul when called out, yet have no problem levelling phrases like "xenophobic diatribe", "racists", or whatever other -ist or -phobe is in vogue on Twitter this week (side note: I RELLY miss :rolleyes: from this disaster of a new site), but I find it's generally because they simply CAN'T articulate their reasoning beyond the aforementioned "feelz" emotion-driven arguments.

    Spot on. 👍️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,777 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    So in effect if one was to believe you are supposedly an accomplice to those who break our laws… haha

    so I don’t think people will now take anything you say (if they ever did) on this subject with any level of interest or seriousness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 Mr.KarateII


    If we do have problems with the enforcement of our asylum laws and generally little to no interest in deporting failed Asylum Seekers then for all intents and purposes we do have Open Borders in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Much appreciated!

    Anything else to add, or are you happy to just prove my last point for me?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Mate of mine had to get a taxi both directions once. Some kind of rail strike was on. Such an easy way to travel between the two cities when the train is running though.



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  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Did you have a point? I honestly couldn't tell



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I never claimed there was a limit on numbers. If you're going to quote from other people, you should read their posts.



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What problems are we seeing in Blanchardstown?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    As an example, do you not recall the "event" there last year with the Garda ARU and a knife-wielding attacker, and the aftermath of aggressive marching through Blanch SC, and people being attacked in and around the area?

    I'll grant you that it wasn't properly reported on by the likes of RTE, but there's plenty of footage of it elsewhere - much if it was posted on this very site at the time as well.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Down from 25% in 2019 and, for a more extreme end of the scale, 33.6% percent in 2007.

    For balance (which very few people like to show around here), it was as low as 15% in 2015, although the prison population now is a third of what it was back then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    Lets hope none of your "folks" end up on the news like so many we've had recently.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    This is such a weird post.

    You sound so bitter that someone is trying to help people become Irish citizens like it’s such a terrible thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Indeed, issues like female-on-male domestic violence (which can be just as violent and/or more psychological in nature) never seems to get the same level of coverage on Twitter or elsewhere. Or how single fathers are often treated, not just by the mothers of their kids, but the courts and "system" generally etc etc

    Imagine the outcry that would ensue if men were advised to cross the road when they see a woman coming towards them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    "Helping illegals who have no respect for our laws, citizens or country be rewarded for their actions" would be a more accurate description!



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