Housing Ukrainian refugees?

racist

Never sounds good when you say, I'm not racist but....

Simple fact is, we have to play our part in this crisis. Do you think we should simply say we have 10000 of our own waiting on homes, sorry we aren't taking any? Not very humane considering what these people are going through.

Poland has taken in over a million ffs. We have to take our share. What would happen if every country had your attitude?

probably because the EU wanted to do that, to take the burden off of Italy and Greece, with the Syrians in 2015 and the likes of Poland, Hungary, the Czechs and Slovakia straight up refused to take any.

In fairness to them they are taking more than their share now though.

I haven't seen any evidence that Ireland is taking a disproportionate share of Ukrainians compared to other EU countries.

We should help but the activist class are fooling themselves in thinking it's not going to have serious implications economically and especially on the bottom half of society.

Forget social housing, there will be significant cuts in the provision of public services, especially in health and education. There will be significant downward pressure on wages, especially in the bottom half of income earners.

There will be very significant upward pressure on rent and housing supply.

The list goes on and on.

It will be a much more free market cut throat society.

We should still help.

A basic question that should be asked is whether we can justify spending nearly a billion on foreign aid with such a pressing need now here.

and how well has that turned out? Everywhere its been a disaster. There needs to be EU wide plans put into place, housing built to accommodate for all including refugees etc. Right now this country is practically in the gutter....another 10-20 years and we'll have shantytowns ie temp housing being built to house people down the road.

There is an EU wide approach. Ireland will take about 2% of all Ukrainian refugees in the end because it is relative to our total of the EU population.

The alternative to a "tent and warehouse" is stay in Ukraine and die. No country in the world ever has been prepared for this kind of mass exodos.

Anyway as of right now we are not housing refugees in tents.

Your just making excuses for not wanting to help

Tell me which country had a massive stock of refugee houses ready to go. All great saying "probably" but give us a name cause Im pretty certain there isnt a country in the EU not in a panic about either houses or money.

If we did have houses set aside all these years laying empty waiting for a refugee crisis you would be the very one crying that they are not open to the Irish.

You appear to be incredibly misinformed about the EU response and situation in other countries. Either that or a willful liar.

One of the unusual things right now is that there seems to be housing crises in many OECD countries all over the world. I know that there are in Australia, New Zealand and many American states. I don't know the exact details of the housing market in every EU country but I'd be surprised if too many of them have an abundance of empty homes.

If there are then I would imagine that the Ukrainians themselves might figure this out - as in right now there are millions of them in Poland - many of them sleeping in gyms on camp beds. If word gets out that, say, Finland, Portugal or Austria has houses available then they will likely head there. I believe they are free to live and work in any EU country for the next few years so will likely choose places that will be most hospitable to them.

So you don't think there are white Muslims? That is an absurd statement.

I've taken none, as I simply don't have any room.

All bedrooms accounted for here I'm afraid.

200,000 Ukrainians equates to 65,000 extra houses needed for them.

Michael Martin recently came out and said there will be no cap on numbers so potentially double this number...that's without considering other immigration and the native populations demand for property, this policy is verging on criminal negligence and mismanagement.

This is my feeling, but I think the activist class or a lot of them are hand in hand with business owners, a lot of them are upper middle class individuals who will be shielded from the fallout and will be oblivious to and uncaring about the plight of Ireland and it’s people going forward.

before the Ukrainian situation there was predicted to be an extra one million people added to our population over the next 30 years….what’s going to happen with this situation, then the Ukraine joining the EU…? You are going to see astronomical population growth and strains put on the finances of this state and its citizens … and the services we need like healthcare, transport, etc…

politicians don’t care

businesses don’t care

NGO’s don’t care

because all of them are shielded from the negative impact of rapid population growths on these scales, both financially and socially….and in fact they’ll probably all benefit. Politicians want the extra votes, businesses want extra profits and NGOs as always value the wellbeing of everyone else before ANY of us….

the man and woman on the street getting absolutely shafted like never before….and there will be no recovery,

Countries bordering Ukraine *CountryNumber

Poland 3,315,711

Romania 901,696

Russia 800,104

Hungary 594,664

Moldova 461,742

Slovakia 415,402

ireland about 25,000

i leave the answer to you who is doing enough and who could do more reading both statistics.

I think the Politics forum has now gone full Current Affairs/IMHO.

where you in the same way pissed of that ireland has received 40 billlion euro more from eu than it has invested into eu up to date. did you also say this is not good for most eu countries to invest money into a poor country...

iam sure you make a few solid points and of course there is some issues i would be interested how would you deal with them.