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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭Joebobs


    ive being trying to follow this war on twitter and other social medias over looking at news. the telgram is good for actual videos to confirm whats being stated but there is allot of mis missinformation... but ive a simple question ...


    as it stands now today, whos actually winning the war in Ukraine?

    any good information sites above millitary info (MOD, department of defence, RMOF) etc..? that says it straigh without leaning to any particular side?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭Joebobs


    i think Russia is okay with UK joining EU...as EU will rebuild it. NATO is a different matter.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Personally I've long suspected that one reason for the drive for Brexit from their rich and powerful was to keep the beady eye, or future beady eyes off their banking system which makes the Swiss look moral. That Zelensky, who well knows the score, praised the British government, rolled out the red carpet for Johnson, the current head of the snake party which stinks with dirty Russian money, whose capital has the nickname of Londongrad and whose government took their sweet time and are taking their sweet time giving safe haven to Ukrainian refugees showed how desperately he needs the weapons Johnson is giving him. Then again when your back is against the wall and a prick offers you help and even though you know he's a prick, you'll take that help. Expediency and good politics.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    A general point, but echoing comments from Wibbs above. The active mods in this forum are me and Ten of Swords. Any mods from other forums are the same as any other user. No higher standards are required and no special treatments offered. Please do not discuss any matters relating to moderation in thread. PM one of us if you have an issue

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ronivek


    I mean the implication that actually using sources or evidence to bring to a discussion is somehow worthy of scorn says volumes about your attitude to the forum and the people who post in it. Although I would point out that there's not a single element of the original post which would require "Jane's Aircraft"; so not really sure what you're crying about.

    So in your opinion it's much better if people just spout whatever nonsense pops into their head without a shred of actual evidence; such as there being top secret NATO planes flying over Ukraine and so forth?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,098 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Strange that it's February and there is not a trace or hint of snow anywhere. It must have been cold in that cockpit with what looks like a gap in the panels under the co-pilots position and with a wind-whistle so massive it drowns out the sound of a helicopter engine so it's barely audible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,098 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭zv2


    Have a look at this yoke, with the price tag still hanging on it https://twitter.com/sniper_by_heart/status/1515738989013127185?s=20&t=kDtsVBWQU89BRfl3hK5UOA

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,098 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,914 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Nobody is winning. Russia haven't won... not yet, maybe not ever. The most important point is that Ukraine hasn't lost yet, but have suffered horrific civilian casualties as a result of Russian war crimes and atrocities, infrastructure devastated.

    It could have easily gone otherwise with Kyiv falling, either to the initial coup d'etat type assault with paratroops or the second wave of massive armoured columns.

    Ukraine have been immense in defence, aided by anti tank and anti aircraft weaponry supplied by NATO but trying to retake territory Russia has seized is a different prospect entirely.

    (The assistance from outside would be for naught without Ukranian troops to wield them with skill and bravery and supplied by a functioning government - see Afghanistan)

    The focus now has shifted to the south east, will Russia be able to encircle the Ukrainian forces there and seize the entire Donbas region, or will they be confined to a coastal strip.

    What happens next all depends on the outcomes of those battles.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    That's not even a T-14 like the Tweet claims, it's a Polish OBRUM/BaE concept, only one ever made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,062 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @Joebobs

    as it stands now today, whos actually winning the war in Ukraine?

    Ukraine are.

    Russia's initial objective was to topple the government of Ukraine and take major urban centres, or at the very least Kyiv. Ukraine's objective was to prevent this and drive Russian forces from Ukrainian land.

    Russia have very much failed their initial objective and today, as I write this, Ukraine still holds the vast majority of its recognised territory, and Ukraine has also inflicted heavy disproportionate losses on Russian forces, even killing a handful of top generals. Russia getting boots to Kyiv looks less likely than it did in late Feb when half the people here were saying that Kyiv had a week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ronivek


    That looks like a Polish PL-01 concept tank.

    The Russian T-14 Armata is generally considered to be a parade only tank for Russia: it has never actually been deployed. I'm pretty sure they would lose their collective **** if one got captured or destroyed in Ukraine; and according to reports they may only have around 20 of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    For the love of the giraffe god! That video effect makes it completely un-watchable. What IQ-minus moron dreamed that up??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Makes sense. The launcher can fire four at a time looks like three made it.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    IMHO even at this stage Russia has lost in so many ways. Even if they took all of Ukraine and installed a puppet government, something they haven't a hope in hell of doing now, or as it turned out then, or no matter what back and forth happens now until peace falls on Ukraine they will have still lost.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Ukraine are because they're inflicting unsustainable losses on the Russians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,098 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Nonsense?, like the Bushmaster being made and designed in Ireland, rather than Australia, the range of a JDAM being less released from a Reaper because the release height would be too low, when it's service ceiling is 15,200m, the US being unwilling to risk an RQ-180 over the most important and critical conflict since WW2, given the WW3 criticality risk, when this is a prime example of a situation justifying why the US spends so much on stealth tech, and so on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    Yeah, the top image is much too colourful, picturesque and peaceful for a fat old multi-billionaire dictator to tolerate. He would rather murder the happy people in the picture and bomb the place into grey miserable war-torn misery. Kunt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    This bellend has bots upping his google reviews again. Take the time to drop him a 1 star and poor review.

    Capture.PNG




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,486 ✭✭✭rodge123




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,441 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Yes, they made numerous miscalculations. They thought Ukraine would fall in 72 hours and there would be a victory parade through Kyiv. They felt the West and NATO would be bitterly divided on what to do and within months would have to accept that a pro-Russia regime in Ukraine was the new reality and they would just have to deal with this. They also thought sanctions would be pretty severe initially, but would also be perfectly manageable.

    I don't know who was advising Putin or whether he was simply overruling everyone, but he has made a series of catastrophic blunders. It's on a par with Hitler's invasion of Russia and later declaration of war on the US in 1941, which eventually led to the collapse of the regime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    The early significant and embarrassing loss at the Battle of Techno House in Kherson was the precursor for the days ahead for Russian losses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,914 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I see some echoes of the Russo-Japanese war and also the winter war with Finland.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Winter war has unfortunate parallels, think they lost 9% of land and want to say 16% of economic output.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,770 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    At a football match in Poland today

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,098 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Ireland are the pricks, not the UK. I agree with all you said about the dirty money, rotten to the core Russian links, but they say you learn who your true friends are when the going gets tough. As for it just being a knee-jerk Svnegali trick to divert attention, that doesn't hold water either:

    "As I write this (20-1-22), eight weapons carrying C-17 transport aircraft have completed the trip from RAF Brize Norton to Kiev, Ukraine....Since 2015, the UK has helped to build the resilience and capabilities of the Ukrainian armed forces through Operation Orbital, which has trained more than 22,000 Ukrainian troops." https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/britain-isnt-letting-ukraine-fall-without-a-fight/

    You have a blindspot when it comes to Johnson. He's no angel but like Obama, he inherited a mess from previous Tory governments which were the ones who got the Uk and Tories hooked on it's Oligarch money and corruption habit. But he didn't let it prevent him from doing the right thing with regards Ukraine and had the vision to see what Was coming and pulled out the stops to do something about it. Cameron was the true filth deserving of all approbium.

    Railing against the corrupt Johnson and the evil UK when the planes sending munitions and war kit started well before the invasion, and haven't stopped, with the UK sending 1,000 NLAWS while this spineless wonder of a country has every single one of it's precious 1,500 or so anti tank munitions still safely growing layers of mould in the Curragh?

    'adversity doth best discover virtue' - Bacon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,098 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Yes and posting a picture from the window where one is staying is not a good idea as people can easily fined out where you are located.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,412 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Will you get up the yard.

    Johnson is up to his absolute ears in Russian money. He's drowning in it. Did you miss him taking yearly multiple holidays to a Russian oligarchs son's house in Italy and multiple others around the world. He's dropped his security team multiple times when he was foreign secretary to go off to meet the guy and then made him a lord. An actual lord. The Tory party is swimming in Russian donations. Enough of this sanctimonious shite now they're buying their way out of the crap they created. The Tory's probably actually had to run their actions by the donors first. The donors are probably thinking Putin is 'now' bad for business. When he wasn't before.

    There's some level of revisionism going on in your post there horse. Ireland are here taking 40k plus refugee's and making it easy for them to get here with a welcome. The Brits pulled up all the draw bridges.

    Post edited by listermint on


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